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Post by zholud on Feb 15, 2004 9:23:45 GMT -5
Having met with disagreement on the name of Our Space Marine Chapter, I decided that vox populi should choose from names. Only two main pretenders are listed. They could be separated to two world later if desire arise. Vote, for tomorrow will be too late ;D
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 15, 2004 10:05:34 GMT -5
Thought I might as well be originall.. Kage
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Post by zholud on Feb 15, 2004 11:10:26 GMT -5
Thought I might as well be originall.. And where is your originality (except becoming spammer and misspelling last word? ;D
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Post by CELS on Feb 15, 2004 11:15:37 GMT -5
Just some food for thought before you vote; Think about what the name Frost Bringers really means. Compare it to the Executioners, the Tormentors, the Mortificators, the Absolvers, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Blood Drinkers, Flesh Tearers.. These are the Frost Bringers... IMHO, not quite as morbid, is it? Ah whatever! But when people start making comments, don't say I didn't warn you
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 15, 2004 11:15:55 GMT -5
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Post by zholud on Feb 15, 2004 13:52:34 GMT -5
But think about sound of [glow=red,2,300]–rstbr-[/glow] part, it gives nice roar! Not some whisper of wraith word. In perception whispers connected to snakes and they in turn to the devil. Giving devil impression to Emperor finest is at least odd.
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 15, 2004 19:41:58 GMT -5
And you cannot think of other chapters that have a more sibilant sound to it? Anyway, I don't care. I prefer Frostwraiths, partially because I've always preferred subtlety over the uncompromising imagery of the adeptus astartes... Kage
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Post by randski on Feb 16, 2004 9:58:48 GMT -5
i agree with cels,we need somthing a bit more dramatic than frostbringers, frostwraiths are going in the right direction ,how about icewraith?,granite wraiths? somthing a bit more extreme and ''hard''imoh, frost just seems mediorcre, but if it's a choice of the two i'll vote for the latter
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Post by malika on Feb 16, 2004 10:03:50 GMT -5
Maybe some special character (hero) from that chapter who has the nickname "Ice wraith"
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Post by zholud on Feb 16, 2004 11:48:46 GMT -5
Maybe some special character (hero) from that chapter who has the nickname "Ice wraith" May we go to compomise - I agree that there is such hero and you agree that he is hero of Frostbringer TM Chapter?
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Post by CELS on Feb 16, 2004 14:33:56 GMT -5
Don't do it, Malika! We can have a character with that nickname anyway EDIT- quoting SojournerI must admit that I don't like the current name.
Wraith has an awkward starting sound which doesn't quite fit in the middle of a sentence. That and it isn't really evocative of what a space marine is. Well, other suggestions are more than welcome, eventhough I have no idea what you mean by awkward starting sound. The word 'wraith' sounds like the whisper of an undead to me...!
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Post by Rogue Trader on Feb 16, 2004 18:37:59 GMT -5
I'm voting for Ice Wraiths, I don't think Frostbringers sound like something you would fear. In any case Frost Wraiths fits the chapter badge I made better.
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 16, 2004 19:25:27 GMT -5
<grin> That's what I like to see! Sticking to your guns! Kage
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Post by Sikkukkut on Feb 17, 2004 20:24:59 GMT -5
More details on the Chapter will follow, but I'll mention a few brief details to add some context.
The Chapter has a very heavy space emphasis. Many of its operations centre around interception and boarding actions, and they have become experts in fighting in zero-G and vacuum.
The original name I brainstormed with CELS was "Frost Wraiths", which ties in with the cold and silence of the vacuum in which they often operate. (And which renders battle-cries a moot point: their equivalent is a whispered chant of "Cold comes. Death comes. Cold comes. Death comes." which they keep up nonstop over the vox while they are in combat.) The cold has an important symbolic role for them too, after a quasi-religious awakening that shaped their first Chapter Master's beliefs and became entrenched in the Chapter culture - more on this later.
"Frost" we used because of the image of water vapour in a ship's atmosphere forming a fur of frost on their armour as they move through a hull breach. "Wraiths" conveys that sense of huge armoured forms moving with eerie silence in the vacuum of space, and I liked it because it was a little different from the usual variations on "Fist", "Angel", " Death" or ">insert name of big scary predator<". The discussion seemed then to focus on "Frost Bringers" instead. Either one works for me, although I'm using "Frost Bringers" as the working title.
Edit: I haven't voted, since I'm basically happy to go wither way in the Wraith/Bringer question. I'll see how the polling goes.
Edit 2: From CELS: "These are the Frost Bringers... IMHO, not quite as morbid, is it?"
It is the way they mean it. "Frost Bringer" refers to the way they often cleanse a ship simply by working their way through it, breaching decks and bulkheads and opening it up to space.
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 18, 2004 7:54:15 GMT -5
Well I really like Void Stalkers, but that's taken...
How rigid are chapter naming conventions...
something like 'Predators of the Ether' has a nice imagery but the wording doesn't seem to fit with the usual style.
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