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Post by malika on Feb 12, 2004 13:40:02 GMT -5
Well what god do you want then to worship? Would they work with the Alpha Legion, or be rivals?
How large is this Blood Pact?
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 13, 2004 12:13:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking a single planet in a cold, dying system, made predominantly of dark granite which is slave-quarried and used to be build ever larger and more blasphemous monuments to Chaos Undivided.
So, they're Chaos Undivided.
And they should be quite advanced; perhaps in the jet technology and nuclear power era; but this technology is still jealously guarded by the remaining body of the adeptus mechanicus, which itself is now a vassal to the rulership.
The world as a whole is a mortal enemy of the Alpha Legion and has fought incursions several times. Ironically, however, many of the oppressive regime's highest officials are in fact in league with a criminal organisation on the planet; itself a vassal of an Alpha Legion cell.
So does this sound good?
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Post by malika on Feb 13, 2004 12:26:26 GMT -5
Well remember there are more criminal organisations, you could have them join another one perhaps if you want to?
Would they be high tech? what about some chaos Adeptus Mechanicus members present? I would love to see those chaos helltalon fighters amongst these blood pact
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Post by zholud on Feb 13, 2004 14:57:19 GMT -5
So, they're Chaos Undivided. I guess we should exploit any one theme too much. We already have CU AL and their cultists, and Nurgle zombies would be primary in the past history (we need some wins at least ) so I think that deity specific cult should be done first, and only after that discuss another undivided. Agreed?
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Post by CELS on Feb 13, 2004 15:27:16 GMT -5
I agree with zholud. We specifically stated that chaos should not be having too big a presence in the sector, eventhough it is "everywhere". The biggest portion of chaos activity in the sector, with the exception of a few major incidents connected to the AL and nurgle cult, will be local cults. Stupid farmers on an agriworld who meddle with things they couldn't possibly understand, or decadent nobility tinkering with the pleasures of Slaanesh.
As for Blood Pact; I would prefer if we left this to the Gaunt's Ghost novels. Besides, we've only heard of them being observed on the opposite side of the galaxy, so... It's big though. Several, if not tens or dozens of regiments. At least it used to be big.
I would also prefer to keep the chaos activity in the Anargo sector as divided and independent as possible. In other words, I would not like to see the AL cults, the Nurgle cults, the chaosified criminal organisations, and hundreds of various smaller cults all working together to fulfill some huge master plan and a fourteenth black crusade or something.
First of all, it would make the chaos forces in this sector more powerful than we want them. Second of all, chaos doesn't work like that. The Chaos gods are as likely to not cooperate as they are to cooperate. The same goes for cults.
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 15, 2004 7:45:32 GMT -5
I'm not suggesting that they're actually the Blood Pact...
Nor that they are the true gribbly Chaos we're used to.
Because they're quite insular and not-space-marines, I imagine that most people worship Chaos Undivided but largely go unnoticed because they have no influence in the wider universe and that their focus is slightly misdirected.
Hence, think of my idea more as the Third Reich where the 'occultism' supposedly dwelling at its core takes over. I like to associate the blood-red banners with the white-backed swastika as being remarkably similar to the 'magic' banners carried by the traitor legions...
Replace the swastika with an 8-pointed star and you're halfway there.
As poetic justice; perhaps we could call the people responsible for maintaining order (as it were) 'Inquisitors' and 'Commissars'?
And the Helltalon was basically what made me come up with the idea in the first place. Just because it isn't a traitor legion design; doesn't mean it isn't very much human.
I look at it this way; if you can have isolated systems worshipping the Emperor and isolated systems worshipping nobody; why not Chaos?
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Post by malika on Feb 15, 2004 8:06:26 GMT -5
well what about some group who isnt imperial, but also isnt chaos
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 15, 2004 8:47:16 GMT -5
Because Chaos is interesting...
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 15, 2004 8:50:11 GMT -5
And it gives us the chance to implicate the Alpha Legion.
And gives us the chance for the Imperium to find and destroy it if it becomes a problem.
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Post by zholud on Feb 15, 2004 9:10:13 GMT -5
well what about some group who isnt imperial, but also isnt chaos I guess there will be third side but right now and here we speak about Chaos. You are encouraged to post your ideas o those non-Imperials on the Imperium directory. No offence, I just think it is interesting topic per se. As to using non-stellar local cult of Undivided just think it is a little bit too easy solution. We wish some God’s presence in the sector, while now we gone totally undivided way.
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Post by Caladors on Mar 10, 2004 18:37:15 GMT -5
perhaps it would be rewarding to see people investgate other workings of the warp, in the necron codex and earlier stuff i have read that the warp has many enetys the chaos gods were mearly the whales of the warp in energy terms.
so there are a number of things you could do you could have alien races worshiping a chaos daemon prince, or possiably ruleing lesser gods on some planets there is alsorts of stuff.
anyway just throwing around some ideas so you guys can evlove them.
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Post by CELS on Mar 10, 2004 19:11:45 GMT -5
Why leave it to us to evolve them? If you have your own idea- let's hear them! Don't be afraid to work on our ideas Yeah, there are other things in the warp. The warp race Aoideans, of my own creation, for example And there have been other well-known warp entities, such as the Enslavers. The possibility of another alien race worshipping a god with an actual presence in the warp, is most interesting. Maybe some of those who are creating alien races would be interested in this...?
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Post by Caladors on Mar 10, 2004 19:17:32 GMT -5
as far as i know the enslavers are not acually a warp enitys as such they however were some of the first creatures to enter it once the empypre was breached,
the reason i leave the evloving to you guys is because i don't have my stuff and no orginal ideas as of yet however i have had alot of ideas so when i do i'll give you line.
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Post by CELS on Mar 10, 2004 19:40:44 GMT -5
Oh, drat. I actually haven't read about the Enslavers myself, I've just heard them mentioned on Portent... As long as you're just in the process of looking over our ideas and giving your thoughts, why not head over in the Other Alien Races forum, where feedback is especially needed?
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Post by Lordof on Mar 12, 2004 2:40:02 GMT -5
Does the planet have to be a Chaos World?
Why not a Hidden Pirate World/Base
Since its Pirates they would still be a nuisence and have their fair share of Chaos Followers
But they wouldn't be predominately Chaos
It also allows for a bigger emphasis on how rotten the Imperium is with its Elite buying Stolen or Banned Goods from the Pirates who could be Chaos followers or just renegades
And in turn these influential individuals will protect their sources.
So it allows for a Illegal organisation which will have its reasons for hating Alpha Legionaires attempting to meddle and still not have been annhilated by the Imperium because of Noble support
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