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Post by Kage2020 on Jun 13, 2004 10:33:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads-up, HighInquisitor... we all have comittments on our time, but glad to hear that you'll try and get things sorted out when you get back. I look forward to seeing more information on your world... Kage
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jun 20, 2004 5:16:11 GMT -5
I have returned. Time to get working on the project again. Unfortunately all this time spent in the real world has gotten me somewhat... disorientated when it comes to the project. In other words I'm totally clueless about what should I write next. I remember having a plan, but it seems like I never wrote it down.
So what do you think I should concentrate on writing next? Most of the things I've written are still very shallow indeed, and there are even some things that I seem to have igonored so far, but they seem to be the more unimportant (at the moment) aspects of the planet.
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Post by CELS on Jun 20, 2004 6:12:11 GMT -5
Well, if you'd read the earlier posts in this thread, it should have been pretty clear You've got a pretty detailed concept of the planet, so it's time to start the world building. To do that, you should download the guide by Kage. You could also use the program introduced by Vatsy, but I do recommend that you use the Guide by Kage if you have the time. The program gives you a lot less freedom, and you can easily end up with undesirable conditions such as too high gravity, or too high temperatures (in which case, it would no longer be an ice world, and I would be disappointed) You've already got the UWP for your planet, which is here; 5,27,23 - M-V - E355745-4 Ag 124 Im 162 Small world (3), Thin Atmosphere (5), wet world (50%), Tens of millions citizens (7), Representative democracy (4), Moderate law, concealed weapons prohibited (5), Tech level 4 (Suggest increasing tech level) All you need to do is follow the Guide and you'll end up with a lot of data for the world. You then use this data to write a Standard Representation for the world, like this one, and to draw a map, like this one. Oh, and you still need to contact the people who have built the worlds from where the big companies come from (like Meksum, Anargo, etc) And you still need a name for your planet Any other questions? ;D
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jun 26, 2004 9:42:24 GMT -5
I can't believe my luck! This is insane! I've gotten an unknown virus on my computer.
It might take hours to fix it, or it might take days. But believe me when I say this: I WILL fix it, and when I'm done with it, I'll get back to the project. I'm terribly sorry for this horrible waste of time. So, after ridding the world of this annoyance, I'll get back to doing the Standard Representation.
By the way, do you think I should start a new thread on the meta-concepts forum about the corporations. I think it would be faster that way. And I think it would be good for it to be for all to see, since it's a quite a big thing after all.
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Post by CELS on Jun 26, 2004 10:18:03 GMT -5
No need to apologize for getting a virus. In fact, you have my sympathies As for starting a thread about the corporations. Well, that's up to you. I'm not sure you'll get a lot of replies if you just ask everyone for their opinion, but... it is up to you Oh, and if you do start a thread, put it in the Imperium forum, not the meta-forum! Edit: You might also want to check this out; forums.portent.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134303568
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Post by Witch-Finder General Kyron on Jul 9, 2004 11:40:05 GMT -5
regarding the corporations, im in the process of creating Darien in the Meksum subsector.
This too is run by corporations in the form of ten powerful trading cartels, the leaders of whom serve as the feudal lords for the planet, electing 1 amongst them to rule as Emperor Regent until his death (often at the hands of the other cartel leaders). Some resources bought from your system would inevitably end up in the hands of representatives from one of the cartels, stored on the warehouse world of Darien I before being sold to the local hive/civilised worlds.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 9, 2004 12:43:18 GMT -5
Some resources bought from your system would inevitably end up in the hands of representatives from one of the cartels, stored on the warehouse world of Darien I before being sold to the local hive/civilised worlds. This is one of those things that I started the thread in "Imperium" about with regards to "Modelling the economy of the Imperium/Anargo Sector" to address. There needs to be a reasonable consistent approach to these given the abstractions present in the project at this point rather than just vague hand-waving. A systemic and consistent approach that can be modified, rather than an approach that must be modified every time that you think about it.
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jul 11, 2004 5:29:12 GMT -5
Good news!
The problem with the virus is almost solved. I should be able to get back to the project very soon. In about one week I believe.
By the way, please, get proper anti-virus software on your computer. Getting rid of a virus is about as fun as pulling out your own fingernails and about twice as painfull.
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Post by CELS on Jul 14, 2004 4:31:24 GMT -5
LoL! Thanks for the advice, HighInquisitor. I really should get a good anti-virus program. Any recommendations? Anyway, looking forward to having you back. I'm really in need of a name for this ice-world though. Has been irritating me for weeks now
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jul 18, 2004 8:47:53 GMT -5
I'm back! At the moment I'm following the Guide, and doing the standard representation. How can physics and math be this much fun?
I'll get to naming the planet and working on the corporations really soon. Expect a working name tomorrow.
And I don't really know which anti-virus program to recommend. That's beacause after trying tens of different programs for trying to get rid of the virus, I have to say, that none of them were good enough. Some found the virus, but failed to remove it, others failed to find it at all. They all had the newest virus databases on them, and I only had one insalled at any time. Maybe the virus I had was just nastier than usual, I don't know.
The program I have is called F-secure, it costs some money, but it has served me well (untill now of course...). Some of my friends swear by the name of Norton antivirus (also costs money). And some by the name of Antivir (which is free!) or some others whose names I can't recall. You should do some research on the net and ask around. And most of all just try to be lucky.
But this is way of topic so I'll stop now. Time to get calculating the Rotating Period for my lovely yet-to-be-named planet.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 19, 2004 5:13:34 GMT -5
You might wan to check out the Meksum sub sector there appear to be a great many powerful corporations that have set up shop there including my own Leskus corp. have a look at the thread i started it might give you a few ideas
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jul 19, 2004 11:23:07 GMT -5
After toying around with some Icelandic and Polish names, I realised that this world can't have a name that originates from it's pre-imperial era, since the planet doesn't have one. So, it has to be something made up by the Rogue Trader when claiming the world. I always imagined him as an aged and romantic gentleman, so I figured he would have named the planet after a woman.
So, for now... Elina shall be the name of this planet. It is a working name and could easily be changed, if a better name is found. Who knows, I might write more about the Rogue Trader and his descendants soon, so the name probably gets finalised then.
The work with the Guide is going well, I am almost at the end of the Guide and I can soon start filling out the standard representation. I hope you don't mind that I changed the planets orbit to the outer zone, even when there is one orbit in the habitable zone. I kept getting too high base temperatures for the planet. Now the base temperature is -83 degrees celcious so it's pretty damn cold there!
As for Leskus corporation, I would be glad to have a region contorlled by it on Elina. However, it's not the time for it just yet. I need to draw the map first, and decide how many corporations can be present on the planet and how big areas of influence they are given. I will contact you when the time is right.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 19, 2004 11:47:52 GMT -5
8-)We look forward to doing buisness with you
What type of star have you got. I ran the UWP on the H&E program and the first base temp i got was - 74 this was with a M V class star, and this was in the habitable zone of the star Oh and i like the name
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jul 20, 2004 4:13:39 GMT -5
So far I have tried:
M0 V with the planet in the habitable zone. Too hot. K0 IV with the planet in the habitable zone. Way too hot. K0 IV with the planet in the outer zone. Perfect.
So, maybe I have done something wrong, but it would save me a lot of time if I could only have the planet orbiting a K0 IV star in the outer zone. So, what do you think?
Great. Looking forward to it too!
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Post by Dazo on Jul 20, 2004 4:18:32 GMT -5
The star in the UWP is M-V class, so don't change it try the calculations using a M5 V star with the distance at 0.2 AU this should give you the temperature's you're looking for If you like i can PM you the results i got when i ran your worlds UWP on the H&E program so you can see for yourself its possible to get the results you want with out having to fudge the figure's
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