The world of Tir'asur

Farseer Kythil Adept ual furta illthara ri ual furtaman! Posts: 105	The world of Tir'asur Jan 1, 2004 4:48:53 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Farseer Kythil on Jan 1, 2004 4:48:53 GMT -5 Something along the lines of a Holo-Field, but instead of breaking up the object's image it hides it. I like that idea.

malika Guest	The world of Tir'asur Jan 1, 2004 4:55:32 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by malika on Jan 1, 2004 4:55:32 GMT -5 so maybe nobody know there is an eldar base there, and everytime the imperium tries to colonise it, they seen to disapear, or just get blown up by the defence

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The world of Tir'asur Feb 6, 2004 4:58:08 GMT -5

Post by randski on Feb 6, 2004 4:58:08 GMT -5

Farseer said:

Eldar equipment is usually built for one purpose only, I don't think they would use War Walkers as Farming machines, perhaps something more 'civilian' but based on the same idea.

but as i understand it that's exactaly why they were made(WD) for hearding big beasties and progressed /evolved into fighting machines(pretty much like the farm tractor evolved into the tank of WWI)

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The world of Tir'asur Feb 6, 2004 20:15:33 GMT -5

Post by Kage2020 on Feb 6, 2004 20:15:33 GMT -5

I'm not entirely sure where this all came from, but I shall try to address the comments sequentially as much as I'm able. One must also remember that Tir'asur is a world which will not be developed for a world... If I cannot at present find the time to produce the 'example of world creation' for the Anargo capital, I don't think that it would be fair to shift to another!

The purpose of Tir'Asur... I'm afraid colonies do actually crop up 'just for the hell of it'. There are enough real-world analogues for that. In direct terms, however, the name of the world - Land of the Phoenix - is a reference to the fact that the Phoenix Clan was initially responsible for colonisation of the Maiden World as an adjunct to the 'home' craftworld. Why? Why do eldar colonise in the first place (remember not everything revolves around the damned wargame!)...?

I could quite readily tell you that the world is partially there to form a node in the weaving of the Metarune... but that would be fairly meaningless to most. Annoying to others who don't like fan 'fluff' impinging upon their beloved universe.

Talking about tactical situations at the moment is fairly spurious since it is not located. The only 'high-tech' world of sufficient naturally-rolled TL to locate the eldar colony world is, once again, right on the edge of the sector. For this reason alone I'm wary of using that world, but rather going for one in the centre. To repeat myself I have not selected that world...

However, given that the world is not going to have significant military resources as a 'standing force', then it would seem daft for them to have an overt tactical significance.

Watch station... The eldar do not, for the most part, need one. Eldar precognitive abilities - my god, the Farseers are used for everything else - are capable of this on their own. The purpose of the world is as much symbolic as anything else. A living recreation of some aspects of the old homeworlds, a place where eldar can go to feel natural gravity, the rolling of the atmosphere and other such things. It is a place where they may make contact with the primeval essence of their race...

So malika, you can stop obsessing about the 'small dock' that you have mentioned oodles of time. Tir'Asur is not in the 'present' of the Anargo sector - whatever that might be decided at, since people are for some reason keen on setting it in the comfortable past - a military outpost, whether that is a 'watch' or a 'army' outpost.

Necrons... No, they will not be dominating the sector. Neither will the Aoideans. That they will be a part of the puzzle is unquestioned, but '<insert race>-centrism' isn't something that I'm overtly fond of.

"Spirit Stone-controlled weapon systems..." Yes, the eldar are capable of that. There will be, as with all craftworlds and even Exodite worlds, a micro-net/Infinity Circuit. Ancestors will be free to move between systems at will so, yes, they can control systems. This is, after all, an essential part of the 'fluff' on eldar engineering and control systems, as well as being mentioned in early WDs such as 115.

Again, though, Tir'Asur is not a military colony and will not be bristling with orbital defence weaponry, standing armies, standing fleets or even oodles of hyper-sensitive electromagnetic sensors (or 'listening warlocks') to form a 'watch station'. It is a 'peaceful' colon that is merely a stepping stone to the future goals of the eldar...

"... so perhaps no-one knows the eldar base is there..." No-one knows anyway, you don't need to recourse to a 'holo-field' generator.

I'm really intrigued at the input, but all of it is trying to set up a 'peaceful' colony world as a prelude to significant eldar presence, or as an excuse to put it there. Eldar presence may expand depending on the advancement of the Necron storyline...

It exists to exist, a first stepping stone by the 'returnist' eldar, those that follow the Phoenix and the Spider. The Dragon only has a minor presence, which is why the world is not a bristling war-world (and another reason why it is definitely not going to be related to Biel-Tann)...

Kage

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The world of Tir'asur Mar 5, 2004 8:59:52 GMT -5

Post by LordFenric on Mar 5, 2004 8:59:52 GMT -5

A question,

since the colony will exist in its own, essentially part of the craftworld way of living, but as isee it seperate from any single craftworld (i.e. it is not an Ultwe settlement but an Eldar one) who will be in charge.

Since i don't see many seers using it, nor it having its own infinity circuit (a little risky IMO) the clans would hold almost toal sway on it, an interesting position given the normal 'power struggle' which exists on the craft worlds.

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The world of Tir'asur Mar 5, 2004 21:06:24 GMT -5

Post by Kage2020 on Mar 5, 2004 21:06:24 GMT -5

LordFenric said:

since the colony will exist in its own, essentially part of the craftworld way of living, but as isee it seperate from any single craftworld (i.e. it is not an Ultwe settlement but an Eldar one) who will be in charge.

We run into the standard problem of 'colonies': at what point do they move away from the 'captive' craftworld (government or whatever), and at what point do they become independent.

I see the colony as fairly independent in terms of psychology, but not necessarily with the kind of 'infrastructure' that one might consider it to be fully developed. I think that within the boundaries of the 'fluff' that would be pushing things too far.

LordFenric said:

Since i don't see many seers using it, nor it having its own infinity circuit (a little risky IMO)...

Seers are present and so is an Infinity Circuit. Remembering that the IC is both a computer and a 'soul repository' and the first is most definitely present. And the second is growing as the eldar find a 'sense of place' on Tir'asur.

Kage

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Post by Farseer Kythil on Jan 1, 2004 4:48:53 GMT -5

Post by malika on Jan 1, 2004 4:55:32 GMT -5

Post by randski on Feb 6, 2004 4:58:08 GMT -5

Post by Kage2020 on Feb 6, 2004 20:15:33 GMT -5

Post by LordFenric on Mar 5, 2004 8:59:52 GMT -5

Post by Kage2020 on Mar 5, 2004 21:06:24 GMT -5