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Post by Minister on May 12, 2004 17:12:50 GMT -5
Established facts:
1. There are Sororitas within the sector, both Militant and non-Militant.
2. There is a presence of the Order of the Bloody Rose based on Dorvastor, acting to watch and guard the faithful throughout the sector. Probably a Commandery, but I'm open on numbers.
Past this, it is up for grabs. I'm against having any other major Orders Militant based in the sector, although they could turn up whilst engaged in various deeds.
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Post by Lordof on May 12, 2004 22:26:50 GMT -5
Well i would suggest making the Order situated here a minor Militant order which has sprung up from Order of the Bloody Rose
This allows a bit more freedom in creating our own feel to them (Perhaps have them Guarding a dead Saints remains or something)
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Post by KeirLeslie on May 12, 2004 23:40:08 GMT -5
I agree that having the Order on Dorvastor a minor offshoot of the Order of the Bloody Rose would be good. This ties in with my concept for the Hall of the Martyrs, the nebula in the Dorvastor sub. I was thinking that there could be a Convent drifting through the Hall praying for the souls of Sisters who have died in battle for the Imperium.
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Post by Minister on May 13, 2004 6:02:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm (ab)using my authority here to establish them as Bloody Rose for purely personal reasons involving me wanting to be able to play with my toy soldiers in the Anargo sector.
However, there could easily exist a minor order as well, particularly a non-militant one. If there was an order of rememberance of some sort, it would most likley not be one of the Militant orders.
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Post by zholud on May 13, 2004 7:19:00 GMT -5
Established facts: 1. There are Sororitas within the sector, both Militant and non-Militant. And I hope I’ll do non-militant parts. I already have a lot of ideas, which remained after my try to write something for the Black Library… Alas, they haven’t answered a thing on my Navigators fluff, so I guess I’ll post it also. 2. There is a presence of the Order of the Bloody Rose based on Dorvastor, acting to watch and guard the faithful throughout the sector. Probably a Commandery, but I'm open on numbers. I guess drop it to several missions… but I have bought neither new codex nor WD on Sororitas, so a little bit unsure whether the ranking system remains in place.
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Post by Sikkukkut on May 13, 2004 7:56:45 GMT -5
So how about this. There's a Preceptory of the Order of the Bloody Rose located in the Dorvastor sub. It's attached to the primary Cathedral of the sub and the Canoness Preceptor makes her home there. However, the Preceptory does not usually assemble there in full force: it provides a small Cathedral garrison and a personal guard for the Eparch and certain relics, probably equal to about a Commandery's worth.
The rest of the Preceptory is divided into smaller forces of Commandery or mission size (or perhaps even occasionally squads or even trusted individual Sisters) who are spread around the Sector in important areas. For example, they might retain a Mission on Anargo itself, to be present at formal ceremonies as a reminder of the Ecclesiarchy's presence; escort pilgrims or guard certain sacred stations in the Sector; and provide small forces to form a symbolic nucleus for the more pious forces mustering in Castellan.
As for the non-militant Orders the Orders Famulous would be particularly active, I imagine, in Anargo and Meksum subs, and the Dialogous and Hospitaller in Castellan, where they need to provide religious instruction, linguistic support and medical backup to the forces there. The Orders Pronatus would be active in Dorvastor and wherever else we decide there are relics.
The idea would be that if anyone wants to write in a Sororitas presence in a sub of theirs, they/their subsector controller raises it with Minister who tracks how the Preceptory is disposed and allows or vetoes their use by particular project members. How does this sound?
PS - Zholud, at least email the BL before you post up anything you've submitted. It would be terrible to put it up here and get a rpely from them a couple of days later saying "we like this, so providing it's not up anywhere else we'll take it".
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Post by CELS on May 13, 2004 11:43:25 GMT -5
Could someone provide the numbers of a Mission, Preceptory, Commandery, etc? I don't have Codex: SoB or anything and I wanna keep up...
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Post by zholud on May 13, 2004 12:31:34 GMT -5
First of all I wish to ask everyone to write my beloved Sisters name in a correct way – singular Adepta Sororita and plural – Adeptae/Adeptas (never Adeptus, it is masculine) Sororitae/SororitasThank you, all. So how about this. There's a Preceptory of the Order of the Bloody Rose located in the Dorvastor sub. It's attached to the primary Cathedral of the sub and the Canoness Preceptor makes her home there. However, the Preceptory does not usually assemble there in full force: it provides a small Cathedral garrison and a personal guard for the Eparch and certain relics, probably equal to about a Commandery's worth. From what I recall (and this is answer for the Minister’s post as well) A Preceptory is the largest level of organisation below an Order (akin to a regiment or battalion, about a thousand sisters according to latest codex. No info in 2nd ed codex), a Commandery (200 sisters) is a subdivision of that, basically a company, and a Mission is the equivalent of a task group- a small force put together to accomplish a specific objective (ie, your 40k army). Taking to the notion six Orders Militant each up to 20,000 strong, Preceptory can be quite rare thing in sector, rarer than SM Chapter. But with the rest of the post I agree. As for the non-militant Orders the Orders Famulous would be particularly active, I imagine, in Anargo and Meksum subs, and the Dialogous and Hospitaller in Castellan, where they need to provide religious instruction, linguistic support and medical backup to the forces there. The Orders Pronatus would be active in Dorvastor and wherever else we decide there are relics. I haven’t read all new fluff but suppose that Pronatus are relic keepers… and possible even equivalent to Mechanicus in search for knowledge. Hospitaller can be on newly made prison planet as well – I try to add a darker side to them, with experiments on test subjects for the glory of Emperor. PS - Zholud, at least email the BL before you post up anything you've submitted. It would be terrible to put it up here and get a rpely from them a couple of days later saying "we like this, so providing it's not up anywhere else we'll take it". I’ll mail them… just no time now, since I got a full time work. BTW I should work right now as well…
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Vatsyayana on Jun 14, 2004 7:44:55 GMT -5
First of all I wish to ask everyone to write my beloved Sisters name in a correct way – singular Adepta Sororita and plural – Adeptae/Adeptas (never Adeptus, it is masculine) Sororitae/SororitasThank you, all. From what I recall (and this is answer for the Minister’s post as well) A Preceptory is the largest level of organisation below an Order (akin to a regiment or battalion, about a thousand sisters according to latest codex. No info in 2nd ed codex), a Commandery (200 sisters) is a subdivision of that, basically a company, and a Mission is the equivalent of a task group- a small force put together to accomplish a specific objective (ie, your 40k army). Taking to the notion six Orders Militant each up to 20,000 strong, Preceptory can be quite rare thing in sector, rarer than SM Chapter. But with the rest of the post I agree. I haven’t read all new fluff but suppose that Pronatus are relic keepers… and possible even equivalent to Mechanicus in search for knowledge. Hospitaller can be on newly made prison planet as well – I try to add a darker side to them, with experiments on test subjects for the glory of Emperor. I’ll mail them… just no time now, since I got a full time work. BTW I should work right now as well… Technically, an Order is also that group unto which is commanded by a Cannoness. So if you had a "new" order, size would be immaterial to the fact that it was under a new command... technically. I'd like to throw my hat into the ring on this one. My new order needs a home. Does any forge world in the system need a sisterly presence? We work cheap.
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Post by Minister on Jun 14, 2004 8:18:46 GMT -5
The Cardinal Primus would like to know what the Sororitas would be doing on a sovreign world of the Adeutus Mechanicus.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Vatsyayana on Jun 14, 2004 8:25:48 GMT -5
The Cardinal Primus would like to know what the Sororitas would be doing on a sovreign world of the Adeutus Mechanicus. Even the Adeptus Mechanicus needs supplies from the Ministorium. Additionaly, in being on a forge world, the order has the ability to quickly resupply... provide additional defense for the forge world... better aide travellers under attack by pirates traveling any pilgrim routes... provide additional security for Mechanicus survey teams... etc.
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Post by malika on Jun 15, 2004 3:46:23 GMT -5
I think the Adeptus Mechanicus would have their own defences and security, the Sororitas would probably need the Adeptus Mechanicus more than they would need them.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Vatsyayana on Jun 15, 2004 4:10:48 GMT -5
I think the Adeptus Mechanicus would have their own defences and security, the Sororitas would probably need the Adeptus Mechanicus more than they would need them. I agree. The soroitas would definitely need the mechanicus for re-supply. At the same time, they could provide additional security and services as needed.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jun 15, 2004 4:21:40 GMT -5
If you are to believe the setting information (i.e. wargame) in isolation, then that is a self-evident truth, malika. Everyone needs the adeptus mechanicus more than they need anyone else...
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Post by malika on Jun 15, 2004 4:50:44 GMT -5
Well...supplies, workers, medical stuff, weapons, religion...the Adeptus Mechanicus has that all on it's own.
They have their own culture sort of, there might be Sororitas there, but they would be there to get the stuff they need.
I dont see how the Adeptus Mechanicus would need the Adepta Sororita
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