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Robots
Sept 27, 2004 19:13:19 GMT -5
Post by Egarb on Sept 27, 2004 19:13:19 GMT -5
Sorry for the rather complaintitive nature of some of the things i typed, i was in a foul mood at the moment
Don't worry everyone with enough sense to live even a marginal distance from the water was fine.
I figured the Adeptus Mechanus being radacle to start off with (heck they dont even worship The Emperor as their god) and being knowledge mongers, I doubted that they would simply "give up" Knowledge of artificial intelligence and would seek to further their research. Inquisitors (another oft radical group of people) would be a great way to feild test this new prcess they made.
Same thing as above, when two radical people come toghether the questions often becomes "why not?" instead of "why?"
I figured the AI would have an intricate knowledge of its systems and be able to instruct the personality in repair or the acquisition of new parts, this would also come in handy for battle adaptablity (AI: the enemy used tanks last skirmish, go aquire a missle launcher. Heres how to intergrate it into the system. Personality: ok)
Thanks for the constructive criticism and forgive my spelling Im the son of an engineer.
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Robots
Oct 2, 2004 18:08:06 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Oct 2, 2004 18:08:06 GMT -5
Don't worry everyone with enough sense to live even a marginal distance from the water was fine. LOL... fair enough. Only tornadoes that I've got to deal with then! I figured the Adeptus Mechanus being radacle to start off with... They are and they are not... all depends on their philosophy, faction and paradigm. heck they dont even worship The Emperor as their god... Which just goes to show that their a sensible bunch of people... ...and being knowledge mongers, I doubted that they would simply "give up" Knowledge of artificial intelligence and would seek to further their research. You will note that I mentioned the 'canon'. Personally I think that the adeptus mechanicus have a lot more technology than they are letting on... but even then, the creation of a 'machine intelligence' is one of those things that I am personally against. I just don't think that they're going to do it... AI and PI, yeah sure! Same thing as above, when two radical people come toghether the questions often becomes "why not?" instead of "why?" You don't have to try and convert me to an approach where the adeptus mechanicus actually performs research. I've been arguing this for many years! Thanks for the constructive criticism and forgive my spelling Im the son of an engineer. Spell checker... (But it doesn't overtly bother me... )
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Robots
Oct 4, 2004 14:40:21 GMT -5
Post by Egarb on Oct 4, 2004 14:40:21 GMT -5
would an expert system or psedo-intelligence be self-adaptable (not to a great extent i just needs to have limited self-adaptability, like being able to realie a bolter is better than a misile launcer for shooting atthe average infantry) if so the robot need not have a full blown MI in it.
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Robots
Oct 5, 2004 20:40:46 GMT -5
Post by Egarb on Oct 5, 2004 20:40:46 GMT -5
I found an article that supports a similar idea to the personality imprinting except reversed, the cortex contains a brain that has limited control but the programming will override it in event of conflict. www.eldaronline.com/rasmus/wh/robots.htmlI dont know if it was teken from an official source but things usually arent wholly made up (well cept here ;D) from scratch, and it seems well written. I think at least it has some truth in it. Also if someone could point me to a great repository of fluff besides critical hit and the imperial archives as im a noob to fluff so to speak, it would be greatly appreciated, if anyone points me to a great article on the legio cybernetica (please o please don't include oop books ill be temted to get em unless theyre online ebooks) i shall hail you as an avatar of the machine god I also found some good robot drawings that arent obscured there
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Robots
Oct 6, 2004 7:18:08 GMT -5
Post by CELS on Oct 6, 2004 7:18:08 GMT -5
Quick question, Egarb; Are you still planning to do work on the Legio Cybernetica, despite my objections?
If not, what presence do you see the 'robots' having in the Anargo sector?
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Robots
Oct 6, 2004 16:08:59 GMT -5
Post by Egarb on Oct 6, 2004 16:08:59 GMT -5
well i mean, if you really dont want me to i won't it just i don't see the legio simply dissapearing, i mean what happened to the robots? gw:well uh... they rebelled and the Legio Cyb.... LOOK SHINY NEW MODELS! Sensei? don't be foolish they .... LOOK MODELS BUY OUR CRAP!
I just dont like it when fluff is gotten rid of through negligence, so if you don't want me to i wont, but would instead tart a discussion on hat happened to the Legio (My Personall opinion is that they are still around but are now one of the many Adeptus Mechanicus secrets)
so can you give me a definate yes or no (Kage or Cels)
Edit: oops notced i managed to evade the entire point of your qestion through rambling ;D
Anyway i imagined robots being in use by particularly radical inquisitors and being made for them by particularly radical Legio members (ones who dont evn see a reason why they were banned [publicly] in the first place) this not only would be the case in anargo but in the imperium in general (unless the legio is wholly in Anargo, which i dont think it would be)
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Robots
Oct 14, 2004 20:40:26 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Oct 14, 2004 20:40:26 GMT -5
I just dont like it when fluff is gotten rid of through negligence... so can you give me a definate yes or no (Kage or Cels) I would suggest that you progress with care. Rather than saying that they have merely been ignored, perhaps you could work on the principle of how they could be hidden or, indeed, why they might have been hidden. Otherwise you'll become another person who merely wishes to revise history, except this time from the old to the new rather than, with others, the new to the old. Personally I say that the " legio cybernetica" has a place, but one that must be incorporated into Imperium history... rather than just ignored because it's technology and not revisionist "40k"...
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Robots
Oct 16, 2004 0:01:50 GMT -5
Post by Egarb on Oct 16, 2004 0:01:50 GMT -5
Sorry for the lack of posting of late, but i also have been moving (though only half an hour away) and between packing and playing Dawn of War there wasnt much time. Ironic isn't it? after starting the inactivity thread.
anyway, i did intend them to be secretive and hidden. thats what meant when i said that the fact robots are even in existance isnt known by the average imperial (or i said somthing like that... didnt I? anyway).
Of course some people know you cant mind swipe EVERYONE you meet, but running about yelling "The robots are come! the high lords of terra care not! Rebel! rebel!" wouldnt exactly be a good for your health, and i think most wouldnt even recognize them for what they were even in plain sight. imperials would go "huh thats a funny looking servitor, i wonder what make it is".
But i didnt meen to revive fluff for fluffs sake. Some fluff genuinely needed to be dropped, but i dont think the legio should have been completely annihilated or that it should exist as it was before, it would have changed drastically, thats for sure.
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Fleetmaster
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Ultras just got interesting!
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Robots
Nov 4, 2004 15:56:13 GMT -5
Post by Fleetmaster on Nov 4, 2004 15:56:13 GMT -5
Someone's comments on "Imprinting" set me thinking about a section of Fire Warrior (Ducks head).
In it (The book, not the game,) the Titan's machine spirit "Learns" morals, beliefs etc from its princeps, much like the "knight walkers".
I'm now going to get charred for mentioning a book and game that a lot of people dislike ;D.
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Robots
Nov 4, 2004 19:08:49 GMT -5
Post by Destecado on Nov 4, 2004 19:08:49 GMT -5
Someone's comments on "Imprinting" set me thinking about a section of Fire Warrior (Ducks head). In it (The book, not the game,) the Titan's machine spirit "Learns" morals, beliefs etc from its princeps, much like the "knight walkers". I'm now going to get charred for mentioning a book and game that a lot of people dislike ;D. Don't worry Fleetmaster your comments won't get you flamed around here...we generally prefer hangings. That way we get a floor show while dispensing justice ;D <Image of Fleetmaster dancing on the end of a rope> Please note the above is just sarcasm...Actually can you elaborate on the information you posted above. Could you possibly provide the actual quote from the book or page number or what chapter it appears in at the very least?
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