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Kroot?
Dec 31, 2003 9:31:19 GMT -5
Post by malika on Dec 31, 2003 9:31:19 GMT -5
What about kroot presence in the anargo sector?
what I mean to say maybe a presence of a kroot mercenary base, maybe a warsphere, and from there they hire themselves out to people who are willing to pay for them?
The could be hired by an IG general for some war, or by a gang/criminal organisation to take care of some people, or they just go out hunting for orks.
The have warp capable ships, so they coul travel to this place
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Kroot?
Dec 31, 2003 14:15:33 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 31, 2003 14:15:33 GMT -5
I personally do not know that much about the Kroot other than their general association with the Tau. With that said, however, the Anargo sector is sufficiently away from the Tau Empire and closer towards the core of Imperial influence that it may be unlikely for them to be present... Again, though, I don't know that much about them. (Well, other than the whole genetic thing which is fascinating of scientifically dubious... ). Perhaps someone else has some comments about this possibility? Kage
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Dec 31, 2003 14:16:24 GMT -5
Post by Sojourner on Dec 31, 2003 14:16:24 GMT -5
Where is the Anargo sector?
It would have to be in Segmentum Ultima and quite near the Kroot homeworlds; they aren't particularly far-roving.
I'm unsure; the presence of more than one or two alien species would be 'too convenient'
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Dec 31, 2003 14:23:13 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 31, 2003 14:23:13 GMT -5
Where is the Anargo sector? I've been trying to get a decent copy of a map of the Imperium, but none exist. The Dark Millennia map, which is the best out there, is quite simply incorrect according to the balance of the 'fluff' rather than just a few pictures that were printed in the rulebook. (E.g. the Imperium does not cover the entire galaxy - the Astronomican only extends over a diamter of 50,000 light years!) Other than that it is possible to say that it is in the Eastern Segmentum located 'near' the Hive-fleet (but not too near) on the 'spinward' side. Closer to the main Imperial sphere of infuence than it is to the Fringe, which is where everyone tends to set their individual sectors (since they are at greater liberty to do what they want). I'm unsure; the presence of more than one or two alien species would be 'too convenient' The Imperium as it stands is going to be quite diffuse, scattered over the galaxy. There is plenty of space for other alien races, but if what you say is true and the Kroot are 'bound' to a volume in close proximity with their homeworlds... well that would tend to put a downer on the concept of integrating them into the Anargo sector. Kage
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Dec 31, 2003 11:55:35 GMT -5
Post by zholud on Dec 31, 2003 11:55:35 GMT -5
I think that total number of xenos species in the Imperium totally depends on interpretation. From one side of specter we have Star Wars (movie, I don’t know the RPG)/Old Flesh Gordon(original Hamilton series (1940s?)) where almost any piece of universe almost flooded with life, including sentient races almost on every world. From other some novels were humans alas are the sole race, or maximum 2-5 more exist. We should firstly decide to which side we are closer. As I get it is purely individual POV, from one side most BL books mention only 1-2 well known races, from other hand, when Eisenhorn meets the mention of those aliens who fell to chaos he doesn’t get surprised thus possibly small sentient alien races are quite common in 40k. Personal opinion: there are on average 3 alien races per sector, most are below the bronze age, but their intellect per se is on the same level as one of mankind. On 16,000 systems there are a lot of hidden places. Pro et contra? p.s. and I vote for Kroot presence.
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Jan 1, 2004 2:38:43 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Jan 1, 2004 2:38:43 GMT -5
The canonical universe seems to have its fair share of alien life. For the most part because of the xenophobia exhibited by the Imperium - at least in terms of official policy - we just don't get to see them... I'll wait until more people have dropped into add their opinion and, if not, I'll just poll the News forum... Kage
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Jan 1, 2004 3:51:41 GMT -5
Post by malika on Jan 1, 2004 3:51:41 GMT -5
kroot have warp capable ships, and they hire themselves out as mercenaries, they could be fighting all over the galaxy IMHO
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Jan 1, 2004 4:34:45 GMT -5
Post by CELS on Jan 1, 2004 4:34:45 GMT -5
Do they have psykers? Or are their warp travels very hazardous? If they don't have psykers or anyone that can take on the role as navigators, it is not likely that they would have made it all the way over to the Anargo sector.
And yes, there are a lot of aliens in 40k. Not as common as in Star Wars, but there is mention of lots and lots of 'small' races. One of the characters in the =][= rulebook, Krashak the Stalker, is an alien from such a small and unknown race. Eldar and Orks and Necrons are as likely to be in the Anargo sector as any other sector. The Tyranids aren't quite as common yet, nor Tau, and I'm thinking the Kroot aren't as common either.
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Jan 1, 2004 4:35:38 GMT -5
Post by malika on Jan 1, 2004 4:35:38 GMT -5
I dont know how kroot travel, I think kinda like how the orks do, since they learned it from them
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Jan 1, 2004 7:17:25 GMT -5
Post by CELS on Jan 1, 2004 7:17:25 GMT -5
I was unable to find anything about how orks travel in the warp in Codex Orks (2nd Ed), Codex Imperialis or BFG.... hmph... I do know that they have psykers, but I have no idea if these can be used as navigators.
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Jan 1, 2004 9:20:58 GMT -5
Post by zholud on Jan 1, 2004 9:20:58 GMT -5
Do they have psykers? Or are their warp travels very hazardous? If they don't have psykers or anyone that can take on the role as navigators. Note from self-appointed Navis Nobilite expert: Navigators are not psykers, the warp flows through them as through sensei. Navigator bores only from interbreeding of 2 navigators, not collected… so, generally psyker=navigator and even more, navigators cannot be psykers, despite they have powers similar to these of psyker, e.g. prophet ability.
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Jan 1, 2004 11:30:08 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on Jan 1, 2004 11:30:08 GMT -5
Yes, it is entirey possible. Not something that is going to be overtly noteworthy, however. Calculated warp jumps are still a possibility, although that depends on where they get the technology for their warp drives... Tyranids are not present except in the form of Genestealers... Tau are not present. The original information on orks had them riding around on space hulks. They are, in essence, confined to the worlds that they are birthed on. This is why it is both importan and interesting to find a mechanic behind the Pendulum Tide (see Ork and Meta-Concepts boards). This is perpetuating the GW definitions which are inconclusive at best. I have always believed that Navigators are a form of passive, low key 'psyker'. Their abilities are not a 'beacon' because of that passivity. Kage
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Jan 1, 2004 11:47:07 GMT -5
Post by malika on Jan 1, 2004 11:47:07 GMT -5
well...didnt the kroot fluff say soemthing that they wanted lots of genetic material, wouldnt it then be logical for them to travel to as many places as possible, I mean even in smaller warbands (which would still be 40k sized armies)
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Jan 3, 2004 18:23:24 GMT -5
Post by CELS on Jan 3, 2004 18:23:24 GMT -5
According Index Xenos: Kroot, the Kroot learned how to build warp drives millennia ago by eating the flesh of orks who landed on their planet. So the Kroot have warp drives, but prolly no Navigators... unless they've eaten some of those too What does this mean? It is possible for the Kroot to come to the Anargo sector. Whether it is likely is up for debate, but it is possible at any rate.
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Jan 5, 2004 13:47:44 GMT -5
Post by Verm1s on Jan 5, 2004 13:47:44 GMT -5
Alongside genestealers, Kroot are also a favourite xenos of mine (I'm the moderator of the [admittedly slow] Shaper Council yahoogroup). Official 'fluff' is that Imperials aren't too sure how Kroot navigate the warp, but they seem to drift towards inhabited/life-rich systems in the same manner as Orks. As you would expect given the mass consumption of Orks in the Krootish history. From Andy Hoare's own thoughts on Kroot, it's only the Master Shapers who might develop shamanistic (psyker) abilities (in 40K they can use minor psyker abilities). Kroot psykers don't appear in any different category, as with the seperate roles of Ork Warbosses and Wyrdboyz. He's made his thoughts and deliberations on this matter known on at least one occassion, although it's likely this may apply more to 'battlefield' Kroot. I don't think the subject of 'Kroot navigators' came up at that point. Couple that with the fluff on warspheres, which Kroot are unwilling to engage in battle due to their role as repositories of valued tech, clan/kindred knowledge, etc. If there are such things as warp-navigating Kroot psykers, it's likely they're squirrelled away in the safe depths of the warsphere. The placement of Necromunda within the Empire may help in this thread. In the Black Library's comic 'Warhammer Monthly', when Kal Jerico's mother (an Inquisitor) returned to Necromunda to hire Kal's services, she had a Kroot named Mordak in her retinue. She mentioned that his species weren't yet very common in that part of the galaxy (around Necromunda).
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