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Post by Kage2020 on Aug 6, 2004 13:34:09 GMT -5
That's actually a rather interesting point... then it would conform to the more traditional 'eclipse' imagery which is often presented laterally rather than superiorly/inferiorly (erm, left/right rather than up/down... darned palaeopathology! ). The only problem them is that the 'spear' would be harder to incorporate...
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Post by rsljudd on Aug 7, 2004 11:40:32 GMT -5
What about turning the moon through 90 degrees so it is vertical behind the skull. This way it will look less like the skull has a banana in it's mouth:) that sounds good ..as the pictures stand i'm voting for Sikkukkuts as it depicts what could be interperated as the north star and it's easy to paint. ;D
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Post by Rogue Trader on Aug 21, 2004 3:07:06 GMT -5
Actually the skull and half-moon was my suggestion (I think it can be found in the artwork forum) but I do quite like the version with the spear through it, perhaps it could be worn only by veterans and the 1st company, I realise this goes against marine tradition but it's just a thought...
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Post by CELS on Aug 23, 2004 23:21:12 GMT -5
Not at all! Certain veterans are often seen with more stylised chapter badges, and they're also seen on banners. By the way, I showed my Frost Bringer battle barge to two friends of mine who are just getting into 40k (well, BFG actually) and they thought Rogue Trader's suggestion looked like a kitten, and they didn't know what the other logo (with the spear through it) was supposed to be.... Maybe because of my painting skills, maybe not
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Post by BrotherAnimosus on Aug 24, 2004 8:45:55 GMT -5
Its a shame we cant get custom made decals of personal Chapters...... I'll try looking to see if its even possible.
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Post by Lordof on Oct 6, 2004 6:55:48 GMT -5
Come on guys we need to get shifting on this again.
We have lost 2 months on the project already and we still haven't decided upon a Chapter badge.
Now we either need a new poll with the top 2 or three options (I can't see the poll results so I'm sorta guessing about if we have a clear 1st 2nd or 3rd here) and have another poll to cut it down.
Unless someone has another suggestion for a badge?
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Post by CELS on Oct 6, 2004 7:14:04 GMT -5
This may be an unconstructive post, but I'm not terribly fond of any of the suggestions so far. The crescent is awfully difficult to recognize when combined with the skull, I realize. I'm afraid everyone is focussing to much on what looks good as a computer image, rather than what looks good on the models. If we're actually going to submit the Frost Bringers to GW's space marine competition, we need to think about the Space Marine miniatures.
If we're not too fuzzed about the competition, we're in no hurry. There are several things that are more important than working out the Space Marine badge. The Frost Bringer IA is close enough to completion that we can focus on other areas of the project.
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Post by Zidagar Dinoman on Oct 15, 2004 8:25:48 GMT -5
Not that anyone cares, but a friend of mine made this badge for my frost bringers in the dawn of war video game. If you like, we can offer this one for the official badge. If not, I'll just use it for my company banner. It's a snowflake with a spear cutting down the middle and some cool latin phrase. -Dinoman
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Post by Tynesh on Oct 15, 2004 17:54:33 GMT -5
Arrrgh!! My Nightmares of the Gothic snowflake return to haunt me! I am really wishing I never suggested the snowflake idea!
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Post by Lordof on Oct 17, 2004 7:30:26 GMT -5
I think that a snowflake is more appropriate as a Company Banner (I mean all of the suggestions we have had will make for Great Company banners along with whatever we decide upon for a Chapter badge)
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Post by Kage2020 on Oct 19, 2004 7:04:59 GMT -5
I'm still voting for Number 5 and in lieu of further input that is going to be the one... Apologies of standing on fingers, but this is really a horrendously minor part of the project that should have been fairly easy to decide.
Lordof's original suggestion is the winner. Whether modification is made with a change in the 'eclipse' being integrated into the shape of the skull (which I rather like) is another matter.
No. 5 wins but can be modified.
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Post by CELS on Oct 19, 2004 7:41:07 GMT -5
And just as I was about to suggest another option, namely option 5 without the half-moon. People don't seem to understand that it is supposed to be a moon/planet anyway, and it makes the symbol more difficult to paint. But if it has already been decided, I'll just have to accept that. The symbols on my ships will be painted without the half-moon though
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Post by Lordof on Oct 19, 2004 7:56:33 GMT -5
I shall be the first to put forward the suggestion of making the Gothic Snowflake the Company banner of the 1st company.
Now if anyone else would like to suggest to which companies the other options should go feel free (especially if someone is making a Frost Bringer company of a specific number and likes the look of one)
also additional suggestions for any left over companies?
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Post by Kage2020 on Oct 20, 2004 11:07:38 GMT -5
But if it has already been decided, I'll just have to accept that. The symbols on my ships will be painted without the half-moon though It was more a fact that something which is some phenomenally easy to decide upon is taking ages to do so. As I said, modification is simple enough to do... I'm fond of incorporating the half-moon into the skull anyway as a change of colour... But regardless, let us make slightly modifications to a decided general format rather than good "ooh" and "aaah" for many more months to come. The Frostbringers are but a small part of the project, even though Space Marines are drastically important to GW's vision of the universe.
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Post by Destecado on Oct 20, 2004 15:15:18 GMT -5
Sorry to jump into the discussion so late in the game, but i have been working on the color scheme of for the Frost bringers and had some ideas for the chapter symbol. If the chapter is suppose to have a Norse theme, rather than using a snow flake, what if we instead go with the Helm of Awe symbol (see below) The Helm of Awe is magical symbol of protection used by early Vikings. Worn between the eyes, it may have been intended to confer invincibility in the wearer or instill fear in one's enemies. It may therefore searve well on a company or chapter banner. Maybe with a skull motif worked into the middle. The only problem I see with both the snowflake and the Helm of Awe is there similarity to the chaos star. One that I particularly like is the Odin's horn symbol. Are we still going with the idea of perhaps the first company being called Thor's Hammers or was that idea done away with. If we are still using it, perhaps we can incorporate the symbol of Thor's Hammer. Instead of incorporating it as a symbol on the armor, perhaps it could be on a pendent or worn on the belt. Maybe this replaces the terminator honors badge to symbolize those that are allowed to where terminator armor. Another thought would be to go with something that represents the whole spear motif of the Frost Bringers. we might want to use the the rune letter Gar. This rune symbolizes the legendary spear of Odin, Gungnir. In battle, it is a ceaseless slayer of the enemy, never misses its mark, and when thrown always returns to hand. Sounds like good traits for a Space marine chapter. It of course needs some work. Maybe behind a skull motif or replacing the crossed lines with crossed spears. Any thoughts?
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