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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 15, 2004 11:45:59 GMT -5
...Come to think of it, one of the reasons that it has not been found by the Imperium is because it is not in a system, but traveling through interstellar space... Which means that we've got numerous places for it in those oodles of 'lost terrestrials'! ;D
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Vatsyayana on Jul 16, 2004 2:45:24 GMT -5
Personally, I think that 12-24 planets would be sufficient. The pearl might provide more space, but we need to consider the trade offs. The first thing to consider is stability. The number I gave of 12-24 worlds is based off of several Klemper Models that show it as perhaps one of the more stable designs. Adding more worlds could lead to long term instability which could break apart the string of pearls. Of course those that made the string might have the technology to stop this from occuring. based on the writeup, they do not seem to be around and I worry about putting such technology into the hands of the Imperium or even an off shoot group based on the Imperium. I think ultimately, whatever technology was used to move/create planets would be lost and not available at all. Also, those that are being controlled by the computer are subject to what information the computer decides to give them. Perhaps even certain databases have been lost after so much time without proper repair. Such a culture would have been well within the tech level 23-25 range. I would also write off most of thier technology. Otherwise it would allow for abuse. I'm open to anything. My main basis behind the Dyson sphere idea originally was primarilly control for the computer. The enclosed space would have provided a better semblance of control. I do like the idea of artificial planets as well. It does have definite advantages as you described.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 16, 2004 3:43:42 GMT -5
Incidentally, the level of technology to build a Rossette is far higher than the Imperium currently has access to... and actually higher than the DAoT society...
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Post by Destecado on Jul 16, 2004 4:36:44 GMT -5
Incidentally, the level of technology to build a Rossette is far higher than the Imperium currently has access to... and actually higher than the DAoT society... I thought the point behind this was that the rossette was not designed by humans, but some alien culture. The humans are just the most recent residents of the rossette. Also the level of technology necessary to build a Dyson sphere would be even greater than that needed for the rossette. Might a suggest a compromize to having the rossette built within the Anargo Sector. What about having the rossette originate from outside of the Sector, but have its trajectory carry it through Anargo. When first noticed on long range sensors, it was thought to be just another space hulk. It was only on closer inspection that the enormity of the structure was realized and that it appeared to be a deliberate construction rather than a hulk. Perhaps it is passing through the Sargasso or maybe even the Heart of the Sector. Maybe it is one of the reasons that rogue traders are being sent in. This might also give us the ability to have a multitude of races or atleast cultures on the worlds of the rossette. If it has crossed a good portion of interstellar space before reaching the Anargo Sector, maybe others have gone on board to investigate it and become trappped.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 16, 2004 4:43:58 GMT -5
I thought the point behind this was that the rossette was not designed by humans, but some alien culture. Erm, that's what I was saying, at least in response to the comments made by Vat... When first noticed on long range sensors, it was thought to be just another space hulk. Or even creating an unexpected gravity anomaly in the warp causing sudden precipitation? Perhaps it is passing through the Sargasso or maybe even the Heart of the Sector. Perhaps, perhaps... although getting into the Heart is going to be a complete bugger, all things considered. This might also give us the ability to have a multitude of races or atleast cultures on the worlds of the rossette. That reminds me of a book, but for the life of me I cannot remember what...
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Vatsyayana on Jul 16, 2004 6:10:02 GMT -5
We should probably have it have been there since its creation... just to avoid additional plot complications. Perhaps it was originally piched off into a pocket universe, which has since collapsed back into the rest of the universe.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 16, 2004 12:54:00 GMT -5
What about at the Supernova shell in Sargassos? Go with ST: Generations and obliterate the majority of the system in the process... You've got an expanding dust cloud with a Rossette at the heart?
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Post by Destecado on Jul 17, 2004 4:30:47 GMT -5
What about at the Supernova shell in Sargassos? Go with ST: Generations and obliterate the majority of the system in the process... You've got an expanding dust cloud with a Rossette at the heart? The debris from a supernova explosion will expand outwards at sppeds approaching 10,000 km per second. The collision of this debris with interstellar gas will heat the gas to very high temperatures some even approaching as high as 10 million-degrees...enough to incinerate planets or pretty much anything else in its path. I don't see even the rossette surviving this kind of even. It is completely possible however that its trajectory throught the Anargo Sector (if it is coming from outside of the Sector) might cause it to pass through the nova shell. The gravimetric disturbance of its passage through the nova shell might be what alerted the Imperium to its existance in the Sector. Of course at this point they are only able to track what is occuring and are unable to approach it, due the the high temperatures in the nova shell. They may be waiting for it to exit the shell in order to attempt a rendevous with it on the other side....in a couple of generations. This would allow for stories taking place within the rossette to remain seprate and distinct from the rest of the Sector (if we wish) while setting up a future confrontation.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 17, 2004 11:44:23 GMT -5
The point being, of course, that the rossette would appear after the explosion. That kind of went without question! And surely the rossette is going to have to be moving at a fair clip to get there and not be affected?
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