Quechit, some help would be nice!

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jun 28, 2004 22:54:44 GMT -5

Post by CELS on Jun 28, 2004 22:54:44 GMT -5

I think he meant stuff like average temperature, native life forms, number of continents, local customs, etc.
Speaking of local customs, I don't think "drinking and dancing" is worthy of mention. This part is more for very special customs that are unique or at least very special. For example, it could be the tradition that men eat before women, that all children are named after great military heroes (with everyone getting named "Macharius" and "Marneus"), that certain colours are considered disgraceful (perhaps the colours of a tyrant), etc.

You do realize, of course, that this standard representation is a waste if it isn't based on data from the UWP. That is the most important premise of the project when it comes to world-building. You can't just arbitrarily decide that the temperature is between this and this on all major continents.

Looking forward to reading more about Quetchit, and the promised 'formal-sounding' version!

PS: Be careful and don't pull a Shamus / Aun Art'aal and make up numbers that should be calculated. You'll probably end up with a world that looks completely unrealistic.

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 6, 2004 11:45:23 GMT -5

Post by Kage2020 on Jul 6, 2004 11:45:23 GMT -5

CELS said:

PS: Be careful and don't pull a Shamus / Aun Art'aal and make up numbers that should be calculated. You'll probably end up with a world that looks completely unrealistic.

While I'm not going to point any fingers (

) I would say that you've got a basic concept in mind. That's fine. You now need to think about that world and where it might fit into the various subsectors. Then you need to go to that subsector forum and post your concept and see if it is something that the PPL wants.

Once you've done that you then have to generate both the system and the world using the Guide (including the "Heaven and Earth" programme). Your concept is then going to have to mesh with the world that is created. You don't have jungles if it is a complete iceworld, for example. This is where you have to look at your concept and see if it fits the world in question, and what about the concept needs to be changed to fit it into the world... You don't go and change the physical characterstics of the world (size, atmosphere, etc.) nor the type of star (without permission).

If the world that you create using the Guide/H&E and the Standard Representation doesn't make sense... Well, we'll ask you to go back to the drawing board. If worse comes to worse then the submission will not be accepted. Hopefully it will not come to that.

So why not go to a subsector, select a UWP that is not already being used and generate the world to your basic concept. See what happens when you have the physical data of the world and what it might suggest for your basic concept... Just make sure that you don't just "make stuff up". And if you use H&E and want to change some of the values, make sure that you're careful. The majority of people who have built worlds here are familiar enough with the Guide rules that we can pick up when someone has been wildly fudging the numbers just to make the square peg fit into the triangular hole...

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 12, 2004 7:22:55 GMT -5

Post by Witch-Finder General Kyron on Jul 12, 2004 7:22:55 GMT -5

malika said:

Tourism: This is a development which has happened in the last couple of centuries. Tourism wasn't a very common thing on Quechit, but recently it has been growing. The cities of Quechit are becomming popular touristical cities where the young and rich like to celebrate and amuse themselves.

There is space in the Meksum subsector for a vacation world - prehaps you shouls search for a UWP there.

I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world and consign a billion souls to oblivion

malika Guest	Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 12, 2004 7:25:35 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by malika on Jul 12, 2004 7:25:35 GMT -5 That could be a good idea, the Meksum Subsector of the Anargo Sector was the on I was looking at first to post this planet, I might as well do it for real

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 19, 2004 6:28:42 GMT -5

Post by Dazo on Jul 19, 2004 6:28:42 GMT -5

That could be a good idea, the Meksum Subsector of the Anargo Sector was the on I was looking at first to post this planet, I might as well do it for real

This might suit your needs malika, i found this little beaut in Meksum sub sector, below is what i generated using the H&E program. it might be a bit wet though, but the temperatures seem to be right and theirs one continent. Any islands could be very carribean in nature, and native life exists. though you would probably have to change the tech level to keep Kage happy

Hope its helpful

NAME: Quechit

UWP: A99A655-C

PBG: 122

TRADE CODES: Agricultural, Water World

STELLAR DETAILS: Primary Star: F5 V

STAR SYSTEM ORBITAL ZONES

1. Orbital Zones: Primary Star: 4 (Bodies Orbit around Primary Star)

SIZE RELATED DETAILS

1. Basic World Type: Planet
2a. Planet Diameter: 9,000 miles (14,400 km)
2b. Planet Density: Molten Core, 0.98 terra
5. World Mass: 1.395 terra
6. World Gravity: 1.103 terra
7. Planet Orbit Period:
7a. Stellar Mass: 1.3 sol
7b. Orbital Distance: 1.6 AU
7c. Orbital Period: 648.334 standard days
9. Rotation Period: 33.813 standard hours
10. Axial Tilt: 6 degrees
11. Orbital Eccentricity: 0.005
12. Seismic Stress Factor: 1.813

ATMOSPHERIC RELATED DETAILS

1. Atmospheric Composition: Standard oxygen-nitrogen mix, with low oxygen taint
2. Surface Atmospheric Pressure: 2.0 atm
3. Surface Temperature:
3a. Stellar Luminosity: 1.37
3b. Orbit Factor: 295.693
3c. Energy Absorption: 0.619
3d. Greenhouse Effect: 1.15
3e. Base Temperature: 15.37 degrees C
4. Orbital Eccentricity Effects: Tc=0.15 degrees C, Tf=-0.15 degrees C
5. Latitude Temperature Effects: (Hex Row=Degrees C)
1=+21, 2=+14, 3=+7, 4=0, 5=-7, 6=-14, 7=-21, 8=-28, 9=-35, 10=-42, 11=-49 degrees C
6a. Axial Tilt Base Increase: 3.6 degrees C
6b. Axial Tilt Base Decrease: -6 degrees C
6c. Axial Tilt Latitude Effects: (Hex Row=Degrees)
1=0, 2=0, 3=0, 4=0, 5=0, 6=0, 7=0.25, 8=0.5, 9=0.75, 10=1, 11=1 degrees
7a. Length of day and Night: 16.906 standard hours
7b. Rotation-Luminosity Effects: 1.37
7c. Daytime Rotation Effects: 0.548 +per hour of daylight, 1,580.268 absolute maximum plus temperature
7d. Nighttime Rotation Effects: 0.5 -per hour of darkness, 28.837 absolute maximum minus temperature
11. Temperature Worksheet: See separate section
12. Native Life: Exists
13. Atmospheric Terraforming: Has not occurred
14. Greenhouse Effect Terraforming: Has not occurred
15. Albedo Terraforming: Has not occurred

HYDROSPHERE RELATED DETAILS

1. Hydrographic Percentage: 100%
2. Hydrographic Composition: Tainted liquid water
3. Tectonic Plates: 14
4. Hydrographic Terraforming: Has not occurred
5. Terrain Terraforming: Has occurred
6. Continents and Oceans : 1 continents
8. Resources and Goods:
Natural Resources: Agriculture, Ores, Radioactives, Crystals, Compounds
Processed Resources: Agroproducts, Metals, Non-Metals
Manufactured Resources: Durables, Consumables
Information Resources: Artforms
9. Weather Control: Is practiced

POPULATION RELATED DETAILS

1. Total World Population: 1,000,000
3. Cities:
3e. Medium-Large Cities (UWP Pop-2): Cities=6, Population/City=50,000
3g. Moderate-Size Cities (UWP Pop-3): Cities=28, Population/City=5,000
3i. Small Cities (UWP Pop-4): Cities=896, Population/City=500
3k. Very Small Cities (UWP Pop-5): Cities=2,240, Population/City=50
4. Primary Cities: 6
5. Starports and Spaceports: A/D/D/A/A/A
6. Orbital Cities: Present
7. Social Outlook:
7a. Progressiveness: Progressive, Advancing
7b. Aggressiveness: Passive, Conciliatory
7c. Extensiveness: Discordant, Friendly
8a. Number of Customs: 1
8b-g. Local Customs/Practicing Group:
Robots allowed for.../Certain age groups.

GOVERNMENT RELATED DETAILS

1. Representative Authority Guide: Fuedal Technocracy
2. Representative Authority: Elite Council
3. Division of Authority: No division

LAW RELATED DETAILS

1. Uniformity of Law: Undivided
2. Legal Profile: 5-89530

TECHNOLOGY RELATED DETAILS

1. High Common Tech Level: C
2a. Low Common TL Limits: Upper=C, Lower=6
2b. Low Common TL: 6
3a. Energy TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=6
3b. Energy TL: C
4a. Computer/Robotics TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=4
4b. Computer/Robotics TL: C
5a. Communications TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=4
5b. Communications TL: C
6a. Medical TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=0
6b. Medical TL: C
7a. Environment TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=9
7b. Environment TL: E
8a. Land Transport TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=9
8b. Land Transport TL: C
9a. Water Transport TL Limits: Upper=C, Lower=7
9b. Water Transport TL: C
10a. Air Transport TL Limits: Upper=C, Lower=7
10b. Air Transport TL: C
11a. Space Transport TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=B
11b. Space Transport TL: D
12a. Personal Military TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=0
12b. Personal Military TL: 9
13a. Heavy Military TL Limits: Upper=E, Lower=0
13b. Heavy Military TL: 9
14. Novelty Tech Level: E

TEMPERATURE WORKSHEET
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LATITUDE BASE
HEX BASE TEMPERATURE TEMPERATURE
ROW TEMPERATURE EFFECTS FOR HEX ROW
1 15 21 36
2 15 14 29
3 15 7 22
4 15 0 15
5 15 -7 8
6 15 -14 1
7 15 -21 -6
8 15 -28 -13
9 15 -35 -20
10 15 -42 -27
11 15 -49 -34

AXIAL TILT HIGHEST
HEX SUMMER AXIAL TILT TEMP PLUS DAYTIME ORBIT ECC TEMP FOR
ROW PLUS FACTOR IN SUMMER PLUS PLUS HEX ROW
1 4 0 0 9 0.0 46
2 4 0 0 9 0.0 39
3 4 0 0 9 0.0 32
4 4 0 0 9 0.0 25
5 4 0 0 9 0.0 18
6 4 0 0 9 0.0 11
7 4 0.25 1 9 0.0 5
8 4 0.5 2 9 0.0 -2
9 4 0.75 3 9 0.0 -8
10 4 1 4 9 0.0 -14
11 4 1 4 9 0.0 -21

AXIAL TILT LOWEST
HEX WINTER AXIAL TILT TEMP MINUS NIGHTTIME ORBIT ECC TEMP FOR
ROW MINUS FACTOR IN WINTER MINUS MINUS HEX ROW
1 -6 0 0 8 0.0 28
2 -6 0 0 8 0.0 21
3 -6 0 0 8 0.0 14
4 -6 0 0 8 0.0 7
5 -6 0 0 8 0.0 0
6 -6 0 0 8 0.0 -7
7 -6 0.25 -2 8 0.0 -16
8 -6 0.5 -3 8 0.0 -24
9 -6 0.75 -5 8 0.0 -33
10 -6 1 -6 8 0.0 -41
11 -6 1 -6 8 0.0 -48

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malika Guest	Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 19, 2004 6:32:08 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by malika on Jul 19, 2004 6:32:08 GMT -5 Im liking this a lot, thank you Dazo...I suck at those things, but this program approved by CELS and Kage? Really cool, eventhough I dont understand what everything means exactly, but Im liking it!

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 19, 2004 6:43:21 GMT -5

Post by Dazo on Jul 19, 2004 6:43:21 GMT -5

Im liking this a lot, thank you Dazo...I suck at those things

no problem

but this program approved by CELS and Kage

Yes it is

Really cool, eventhough I dont understand what everything means exactly, but Im liking it

Thats Ok you don't have to understand every thing, this gives you all the figures you will need when you come to do the SR just transfere them to the template and bobs your uncle.
I should point out that this system also has a few asteroid belts and gas giants these are quite easy and fun to do with guide so i would suggest you have a go at that yourself but if your'e still a bit unsure i don't mind giving you a hand just let me know

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Quechit, some help would be nice! Jul 19, 2004 6:47:16 GMT -5

Post by malika on Jul 19, 2004 6:47:16 GMT -5

Thank you very much man

The asteroids could be used for mining, perhaps by the Laskus Company, maybe they have a strong presence on Quechit, I will work that out later, I'll try to figure out some of these numbers and then try to re write some of the stuff from my planet

Thanks dude