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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 8:55:33 GMT -5
Hmph, from Codex: Catachans, it sounds like the Grox have nests where they keep their eggs and youngsters, IIRC. My memory isn't clear about that though... As for herbivores not eating stones for suggestion, I'm surprised to see you make such a claim, zholud, right after I bring the Tyrannosaurus Rex example...
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Post by zholud on Mar 6, 2004 9:03:21 GMT -5
As for herbivores not eating stones for suggestion, I'm surprised to see you make such a claim, zholud, right after I bring the Tyrannosaurus Rex example... First of all he isn’t herbivore to my knowledge and I don’t see the necessity for him eating stones… but noting that this was tens of millions years ago – who knows. And as to “ ” just keep in mind that I am nit-picky bastard ;D
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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 9:10:39 GMT -5
Right... I checked my dictionary, and apparently 'herbivore' does not mean 'carnivore'. You would think I didn't have to look it up to realize that, but there you go... ;D Still, Grox' aren't herbivores, they're.... omnivores... or whatever the word is. They eat meat as well, so it would make sense that they ate rocks at times. Combining that with the fantastic 'GW says so' argument, I say we go for it
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Post by zholud on Mar 6, 2004 9:46:12 GMT -5
Still, Grox' aren't herbivores, they're.... omnivores... Yes, they are just similar to pigs, at least as I know them –they eat everything from carrot or insect to own off-spring. And I personally know person of whom they ate part of the face and lower jaw. All the surgery made him look more or less fine, but his lower jaw is just prosthesis w/o muscles…
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Post by Minister on Mar 6, 2004 11:41:24 GMT -5
Was it some sort of wild boar or rampaging porker miffed because he approached its offspring or what?
Anyway, I am of the opinion that a Grox would eat anything slow/stupid/peaceful enough to be unable to get away, although wouldn't put effort into chacing things nless there was no other source of foodstuffs nearby.
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Post by zholud on Mar 6, 2004 14:31:28 GMT -5
Was it some sort of wild boar or rampaging porker miffed because he approached its offspring or what? It was just an usual farm pork, and it baited him maybe because it was hungry ad he usually fed it. Anyway, I am of the opinion that a Grox would eat anything slow/stupid/peaceful enough to be unable to get away, although wouldn't put effort into chacing things nless there was no other source of foodstuffs nearby. Totally agree.
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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 15:30:43 GMT -5
On Grox not chasing its food, I have a certain thrice-damned illegal document which must not be named (Shhh), that claims that Grox are well muscled, fast and aggressive. They are also known to take a limb or two of their herders, if not managed with care. Codex: Catachans also mentions that the Grox are quite capable predators when living in the wild, so I would say that
A) After a life in confined spaces, being stuffed with as much food as they're capable of eating, I'm sure that the Grox will become lazy and relatively harmless unless provoked.
B) On worlds such as Antares, where the Grox live in the wild, the grox aren't getting meat unless they catch it, so I think these would be more likely to chase their food (even animals like a well-balanced diet).
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Post by Femerenden on Mar 6, 2004 15:37:02 GMT -5
Am i guessing wrong?
The grox in the mount that Catachan Rough riders use?
Note: Never readed about the Space Marine size and more muscular Vietnam fighters a.k.a. Catachans
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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 16:01:30 GMT -5
There might be some disillusioned person who has his Catachan rough riders riding Grox, but Grox are 5 meters long and as tall as a man and used as livestock by the Imperium. If you have more questions, I suggest you read the earlier posts in this thread, since we've said pretty much all there is to say about the Grox.
I did not understand what you were trying to say about Space Marines and Catachan, I'm afraid.
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Post by Femerenden on Mar 6, 2004 16:10:58 GMT -5
I don't want to ruin the tread but i am implying that the Catachan models if you model them properly become taller than space marine models...
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Post by Minister on Mar 6, 2004 18:16:56 GMT -5
True, but they are a buncha mild abhumans...
On the Grox hunting: I'm thinking that they would primarily be scavengers, rather than hunters. If there's any sort of carion available they would go after that (the wonders of a robust digestive system).
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Post by Skabbhatt on Mar 6, 2004 18:25:20 GMT -5
So we have agreed that grox are omnivores, including soil, who eat a rock or two to help digest the meat they eat? So, logically, if a grox population didn't have access to meat they wouldn't eat rocks. They like meat as it's nourishing, usually goes for the easiest source of food, scavengers as Minister said. I also agree with CELS on the grox behaviour, if they just are given food at regular times they will grow lazy. But wild grox is scary. But overall, as all animals, if you just don't mess with them, they won't mess with you. I do like the idea the idea of the grox having the egg inside them and giving live birth. Can we get the information on grox having nests confirmed? Well the colder the longer I guess, even if they are semi-hot blooded and keep the eggs inside them. Sounds... good. *scratch head* Basically you saying that grox could eat soil, right?
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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 18:49:55 GMT -5
My mistake, there's no mention of Grox nests. Which is good news for Antares, I guess, since it would be very difficult to drive Grox herds if they kept buildings nests which they defended with their lives... On the live birth... would the Grox carry eggs within their body like mammals? Or were you thinking of a pouch of some kind? PS: Yes, Skabbhatt, he's saying they could eat soil ;D
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Post by Minister on Mar 6, 2004 19:10:18 GMT -5
I would say that they're mamilianish in reproduction, and that the young would probably be able to follow the group (although not be fully self-suficient) within a space of a week.
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Post by yakman on May 25, 2004 1:23:39 GMT -5
There is a picture of a grox in rogue trader, can't give ou a page number, my copy has return to its so called 'owner'. There is also a significantly less illegal and identidical description in there as well. stats too, for those of you who care for such things.
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