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Post by Destecado on Apr 23, 2004 16:40:31 GMT -5
Several ideas have been bandied back and forth, but I don't think any conclusion has been reached as to the status of the Cursed Sub-Sector. Is it considered wirlderness space or is it just cordoned off from the rest of the Sector. How does the Imperium go about enforcing the cordon? Is the idea that the Sub-Sector is cursed due to propoganda or actuall phenomena. What are your thoughts?
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Post by CELS on Apr 23, 2004 17:07:53 GMT -5
1) Why is it "cursed"?
The way I see it, some of the planets are probably still tainted. A chaos corruption is hard to clean up, and even with nukes and viral bombs, a few planets would have a few traces of Chaos still, as well as the odd artifact and maybe even bound daemon...
Second, I think it's conceivable that since a whole subsector was more or less eradicated in just a few years of war, this would have some effect on the warp in the cursed subsector. Not to mention that it was like christmas AND birthday for Khorne.
Third, Imperial Propaganda has obviously said that the cursed subsector is cursed, to keep people out, so that they don't A) find anything Chaos-y and B) Don't see how many billion innocents the Imperium will readily sacrifice if Chaos comes.
2) How does the Imperium enforce this cordon?
Well, they would have monitor stations that would pick up any incoming ships. They would also have patrolling Navy Ships that would intercept said ships. Probably Light Cruisers and Escorts, modified with extra sensors and such.
The patrolling Navy ships would probably perform scans of the systems every so often, and make sure no one has slipped by the cordon and made planetfall.
Should the odd cheeky rogue trader have made planetfall, searching for tech or artifacts of value to dubious customers, I'm guessing they would either drop a nuke his way, or send down a team to investigate. Maybe Arbites?
The way I see it, most of the Cursed Subsector is definitely off-limits to civilians, and will be thus marked on any Imperial maps, meaning ' no excuses '. If you show up, you're lucky to get a warning shot from the Imperial ships.
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Post by Destecado on Apr 23, 2004 17:25:19 GMT -5
Kage had said in the Age of Apostasy thread the Cursed Sub-Sector was probably the capital of the Sector until after the Age of Apostasy. Based on the history that is being developed for the rest of the sector, I was thinking that perhaps the war against the rebel forces may still be going on...depending on what we select as the actuall start date. Kage also mentioned the possibility of the Sargasso gulf being more recent than we had previously been discussing. What are your thoughts on the gulf forming during the time of imperial occupation of the sector rather than over hundred of thousands of years ago? |
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Post by CELS on Apr 23, 2004 17:48:27 GMT -5
The Cursed Sub-sector was the bastion of the chaos forces in Anargo during the Age of Apostasy, unless you've gone and changed that. This is why they exterminated the whole area. It's a lot cheaper than having a war going on for five millennia, and makes a lot more sense considering that the planets are going to be tainted anyways. What's the deal on the gulf? How was it formed?  |
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Post by Destecado on Apr 23, 2004 18:15:57 GMT -5
The Cursed Sub-sector was the bastion of the chaos forces in Anargo during the Age of Apostasy, unless you've gone and changed that. This is why they exterminated the whole area. It's a lot cheaper than having a war going on for five millennia, and makes a lot more sense considering that the planets are going to be tainted anyways. What's the deal on the gulf? How was it formed? Wish I knew.  The whole Heart of the Sector debate has even thrown its existance into question. Having it as a seperate anomaly so close to what ever is going on in the center of the sector seemed kind of redundant. I wanted it to be something that was an effect of the phenomenon at the center rather than seperate. The best way to describe it is the vapor vortex that you see at the tips of airplane wings when they land. The effect is driven by other forces, but is the most noticeable part of the entire effect. It is the vapor vortex caused by the drag at the center of the sector.....I just have to convince Kage to agree with me. Having the war still being fought in the Cursed Sub-Sector was only a thought based on what time frame we actually have the game start in. If it is starting closer to current events, then no, but if it is starting less than 500 years after the "official" end of the Apostasy, then I would say possibly. It also gives a reason why the capital may have been moved. Maybe the former capital no longer exists. It could have been viral bombed by one or the other side or reduced to a cinder. I'm pretty much trying to tie the sequence of events taking place in the Cursed Sub-Sector into the Sector history as a whole. |
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Post by CELS on Apr 23, 2004 18:47:27 GMT -5
That the wars following the Vandire heresy have been going on for several millennia is because entire empires have turned from the Emperor's fold, and though most of the Imperium was quickly "conquered" by the followers of St. Thor, the most remote rebel empires were not.
Some of these empires have been fought over for years, and some have not even been reached yet. Make no mistake though; the cursed subsector is nothing like these empires. The difference? Chaos.
These empires, while having rebelled, are still human. The Cursed Subsector was so corrupted by chaos that it no longer has any value to the Imperium, it is merely a threat. The Meksum subsector, whilst loyal to Vandire, did not turn to Chaos, and was saved.
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