Post by Destecado on Apr 9, 2004 13:57:56 GMT -5
The following thread will be an outline of the major plot concepts that have been put forward for the Cursed Sub-Sector. It is an overview of the discussion about the sub-sector taken from several threads History of the Anargo Sector, The Chaos Wars, The Cursed Sub-Sector. It is my hope that it will help to provide a clearer framework from which to continue work on the Cursed Sub-Sector’s development. This outline will also serve as a way to break the topic of the sub-sector down into manageable pieces. For ease of reading the Cursed Sub-Sector will from here forward in this post be referred to as the CSS
I would ask that instead of discussing a particular topic mentioned in the outline in this thread, you would instead start a new thread related to that topic or click on the link to the topic in the outline. Posts made to this thread should be a discussion of the meta-plot for the sub-sector or to indicate a specific topic that may have been missed during the creation of this outline. This thread will be stikied in the “Cursed Sub-Sector Forum”. Eventually each item listed in the outline will become a link to the specific thread(s) discussing that topic.
CSS PRE-GREAT CRUSADE
Age of Strife Micro Empire
Kage2020 makes reference to perhaps the existence of a small empire within the CSS that existed around the time of contact with the great crusade. The theory was voiced that this culture may have sided with the traitor legion during the Horus Heresy (which is what lead to the scourging of the CSS.
Though mentioned, there does not seem to have been any data generated about this culture. One poster speculated that perhaps some of the destruction or razing of worlds could have been carried out by this culture prior to the arrival of the Great Crusade. A deeper analysis of the culture needs to be made. They might be part of the reason for the “bad” reputation of the sub-sector.
Sargasso Gulf, Great Gulf, The Shroud
This is a new idea brought up by myself in the discussion of the CSS. It is a becalmed section of warp space where travel is very difficult (lack of warp currents and eddies). It has yet to be explored fully and its inclusion in the sub-sector has yet to be fully determined.
GREAT CRUSADE
Alpha Legion
The source threads used for this outline agree that the AL were the liberators of the Anargo Sector. Which sub-sectors they actually battled in or what form this liberation took, have yet to be explored.
Age of Strife Micro Empire
No mention is made of how this culture acted during reunification with the Imperium of Man. It is theorized that they supported the AL during the Horus Heresy, but nothing beyond that. If the Scourging did not take place till the Age of Apostasy, this idea needs to be re-evaluated.
SCOURGING OF THE CSS
Alpha Legion
Much discussion over how the scourging of the sector occurred. One idea points to perhaps the AL having a hand in it. There is debate whether this would have occurred near the end Horus Heresy or during the the Age of Apostasy. Inquisition and loyalist forces of the Imperium may have attacked the worlds in the CSS to combat the rise of cults and the taint of chaos brought about by their consorting with the AL.
Age of Apostasy
Another cause of the possible scourging points to High Lord Vandire razing the worlds in retaliation for their support of those opposed to his rule or for outright revolt against his rule. There may also have bee links to a three way war or hostilities between the Anargo and Meksum sub-sectors.
Anargo though loyal to Vandire during the Age of Apostasy still won out over Meksum and became the new sector capital. The CSS was declared Purgatus by the Inquisition. Alpha Legion involvement is still suspected, but not the prime motivator for the purge.
DENIZENS OF THE CSS
Alien Races
Orks figure prominently in several discussions including the possibility of the existence of Chaos Orks. There is also the possibility of unknown or minor alien races existing in the CSS.
Alpha Legion
The AL is still a presence in the Anargo Sector and may be using the CSS as a place from which to plan their assaults on the rest of the sector. Several posts theorize the existence of hidden bases or perhaps a small fleet of ships, space hulk or asteroid, from which they operate. There are also specualted ties between the AL and crime syndicates in other sub-sectors.
Iron Warriors
the possibility of a small IW presence was put forward, though most posters felt it could not exist this deep into Imperial Space. The possibility of a abandoned stronghold or fortified base has remained a possibility though. It was theorized that the base may have been taken over by orks, which lead to the discussion of Chaos Orks.
Robots
There were both references to the existence of perhaps Necrons and a tomb world as well as conventional robots from the age of strife. Although a lot of doubt was cast on both points, the aforementioned existence of a micro empire from the age of strife might make robots a possibility.
Pirates
As the name implies, the CSS is thought to be cursed. Few people would really want to go there voluntarily. It makes it the perfect place for pirates, thieves and those trying to escape Imperial Justice to Hide. These could be your every day pirates or perhaps chaos cults in league with the AL or other force.
This is a basic overview of what I have been able to pull together so far. Please let me know if I have missed any major points.
I would ask that instead of discussing a particular topic mentioned in the outline in this thread, you would instead start a new thread related to that topic or click on the link to the topic in the outline. Posts made to this thread should be a discussion of the meta-plot for the sub-sector or to indicate a specific topic that may have been missed during the creation of this outline. This thread will be stikied in the “Cursed Sub-Sector Forum”. Eventually each item listed in the outline will become a link to the specific thread(s) discussing that topic.
CSS PRE-GREAT CRUSADE
Age of Strife Micro Empire
Kage2020 makes reference to perhaps the existence of a small empire within the CSS that existed around the time of contact with the great crusade. The theory was voiced that this culture may have sided with the traitor legion during the Horus Heresy (which is what lead to the scourging of the CSS.
Though mentioned, there does not seem to have been any data generated about this culture. One poster speculated that perhaps some of the destruction or razing of worlds could have been carried out by this culture prior to the arrival of the Great Crusade. A deeper analysis of the culture needs to be made. They might be part of the reason for the “bad” reputation of the sub-sector.
Sargasso Gulf, Great Gulf, The Shroud
This is a new idea brought up by myself in the discussion of the CSS. It is a becalmed section of warp space where travel is very difficult (lack of warp currents and eddies). It has yet to be explored fully and its inclusion in the sub-sector has yet to be fully determined.
GREAT CRUSADE
Alpha Legion
The source threads used for this outline agree that the AL were the liberators of the Anargo Sector. Which sub-sectors they actually battled in or what form this liberation took, have yet to be explored.
Age of Strife Micro Empire
No mention is made of how this culture acted during reunification with the Imperium of Man. It is theorized that they supported the AL during the Horus Heresy, but nothing beyond that. If the Scourging did not take place till the Age of Apostasy, this idea needs to be re-evaluated.
SCOURGING OF THE CSS
Alpha Legion
Much discussion over how the scourging of the sector occurred. One idea points to perhaps the AL having a hand in it. There is debate whether this would have occurred near the end Horus Heresy or during the the Age of Apostasy. Inquisition and loyalist forces of the Imperium may have attacked the worlds in the CSS to combat the rise of cults and the taint of chaos brought about by their consorting with the AL.
Age of Apostasy
Another cause of the possible scourging points to High Lord Vandire razing the worlds in retaliation for their support of those opposed to his rule or for outright revolt against his rule. There may also have bee links to a three way war or hostilities between the Anargo and Meksum sub-sectors.
Anargo though loyal to Vandire during the Age of Apostasy still won out over Meksum and became the new sector capital. The CSS was declared Purgatus by the Inquisition. Alpha Legion involvement is still suspected, but not the prime motivator for the purge.
DENIZENS OF THE CSS
Alien Races
Orks figure prominently in several discussions including the possibility of the existence of Chaos Orks. There is also the possibility of unknown or minor alien races existing in the CSS.
Alpha Legion
The AL is still a presence in the Anargo Sector and may be using the CSS as a place from which to plan their assaults on the rest of the sector. Several posts theorize the existence of hidden bases or perhaps a small fleet of ships, space hulk or asteroid, from which they operate. There are also specualted ties between the AL and crime syndicates in other sub-sectors.
Iron Warriors
the possibility of a small IW presence was put forward, though most posters felt it could not exist this deep into Imperial Space. The possibility of a abandoned stronghold or fortified base has remained a possibility though. It was theorized that the base may have been taken over by orks, which lead to the discussion of Chaos Orks.
Robots
There were both references to the existence of perhaps Necrons and a tomb world as well as conventional robots from the age of strife. Although a lot of doubt was cast on both points, the aforementioned existence of a micro empire from the age of strife might make robots a possibility.
Pirates
As the name implies, the CSS is thought to be cursed. Few people would really want to go there voluntarily. It makes it the perfect place for pirates, thieves and those trying to escape Imperial Justice to Hide. These could be your every day pirates or perhaps chaos cults in league with the AL or other force.
This is a basic overview of what I have been able to pull together so far. Please let me know if I have missed any major points.