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Post by malika on Sept 6, 2004 11:57:45 GMT -5
If they are powerful they dont need the Eldar, they would just keep on attacking the other humans in order to get what they need and fight fight the Eldar off.
I like the idea of them being a bit powerfull, but only powerfull enough to attack small settlements, not start huge wars, they are too lazy for that.
But since this planet is in the 40k universe...how did all the species get on this world and shouldnt they have some sort of technology?
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Post by Dazo on Sept 6, 2004 12:05:37 GMT -5
Perhaps its like a warp dump, or the warp equvilant of the bermuda triangle, the races present were unfortunate to get caught in it and got dumped on this world. Or it was a maiden world but very sparcely populated when humans crashed there it might have been hundreds of years befor they became aware of each other. Orks don't need reasons their like lice they just show up for no apparent reason.
As for tech...dunno...lets go the startrek route and say some magical field prevents the really advanced stuff from working.
So we have two powerful human nations with the xenos mostly trying to keep out of their way and several more barbaric but competent, not useless sheep, nations/societies whom the xenos harass
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Post by malika on Sept 6, 2004 12:15:07 GMT -5
Or maybe it's a c'tan experiment ok...Im sorry...I overdid it here... But if the humans crashed they must have salvaged something from their ships right?
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Post by Dazo on Sept 7, 2004 3:44:03 GMT -5
Possibly but without the means to replenish energy supplies or fabricate more it would soon become useless, so lets forget about salvaged tech for the moment, it mearly clouds an already complicated issue
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Post by malika on Sept 7, 2004 6:30:34 GMT -5
Will Chaos be present on the planet? Or is it also isolated from them?
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Post by Dazo on Sept 7, 2004 6:51:50 GMT -5
Personal preference, no, it would be WFB if chaos was present, plus I dont think they would last very long if chaos reared its head, it would rapidly become a daemon world as they lack the ability to resist the influence of chaos. You would have traitor legions showing up all the time, daemonic portals being opened left right and centre there would be no point developing this world as a fantasy world as it would cease to be that very quickly, so no, no chaos please
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Post by malika on Sept 8, 2004 10:22:17 GMT -5
So ok, we got: -Humans -Eldar -Orks (including subspecies Goblins, Snotlings and Squigs)
Some potential: -Undead? -Dwarfs? -Beastmen?
How would these potential races fit in? I mean Dwarfs would be Squat..but they got whiped out.
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Post by Dazo on Sept 8, 2004 11:33:24 GMT -5
To be honest I think beastmen have more potential than orks, they could develop more of a society than orks who keep having to be wiped out because they advance to fast.
And dwarves/squats are always interesting in conjunction with humans and elves/eldar I would like to see mighty mountain kingdoms but I know that others who are also interested in this world do not like them so we may have trouble getting them in.
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Post by malika on Sept 8, 2004 12:38:32 GMT -5
But ok we could get the Beastmen in...perhaps they would be the original inhabitants of this world?
Tribes of Beastmen throughout the planet, have them be very savage, killing machines who kill all their enemies, perhaps they sacrifice life to their Gods, or just eat them.
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Post by Dazo on Sept 8, 2004 16:08:26 GMT -5
No not totally feral, but with a bit of culture, standing stones, tribes, possibly even nations, hierarchy, various ranks and titles, perhaps shamanism. Clearly blood sacrifice, but with their own blood as valuable as that of prisoners. They would be as threatened by orks as every one else, who in my opinion are more of a dedicated killing machine than the beastmen would be.
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Post by malika on Sept 8, 2004 16:12:55 GMT -5
That is what I meant to say...maybe them also trading with the Goblin Seperatists, that could be cool!
Alliances formed between Ork and Beastmen tribes through Goblin diplomats, while others are smashing each other's brains in.
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Post by Dazo on Sept 8, 2004 16:26:15 GMT -5
That sounds funky, the beast nations or beast kingdoms or nations of the darklight yeah ok so what we got 3 human societites(noble, greedy, primitive) 1 disperate eldar nation 1 ork- beastman kingdom(unified by what?)
I'd say we now need to decide how the eldar are gonna be represented
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Post by malika on Sept 8, 2004 16:29:00 GMT -5
Orks and Beastmen are not really united, they are many seperated tribes, alliances are formed and broken, but sometimes Orks and Beastmen tribes ally together, either for strategical or economical benifits.
I dont like the idea of an ork/beastmen kingdom...it makes them too civilized
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Post by Dazo on Sept 8, 2004 16:36:51 GMT -5
Yes but thats the point, thats what lifts it above the usual stereo type for these creatures, yes i agree have the many ork and beastman tribes fighting and cooperating, but the kingdom would be dark and nasty and I know how much you like chaos so if you were to say scratch my back on this idea we might incorperate chaos somehow into it. It might be some dark messiah that has brought them together, it may not be chaos but it could be warp spawned, do all daemons in the warp belong to a chaos power. Hell we could even involve malal somehow
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Post by malika on Sept 8, 2004 16:39:02 GMT -5
Malal could be very interesting...but I think that should be in the Chaos Forum here...something about Malite cults and/or champions would seriously kick ass!
But perhaps "messiah" of a minor Chaos Power would kick ass [insert evil laughter]
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