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Post by Femerenden on Mar 23, 2004 14:24:49 GMT -5
We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest! We Want Our Crest!
As the above says i...i mean we need the Castellan Crest. I am no good at designing 40k things(I cannot creat banners even) some one has to do it...
We Want Our Crest!
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Post by CELS on Mar 23, 2004 15:02:00 GMT -5
How constructive...
I could probably do a crest for Castellan, if you others can help with the thinking. Do you mean the Castellan subsector or the world Castellan? Anyway, we'll need to figure out what colours are appropriate, what symbols, patterns, etc.
Thoughts?
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Post by Shoulder on Mar 24, 2004 1:38:38 GMT -5
The ork prescense; symbolised by some imperialized ork symbol (the fist for example)
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Post by Tynesh on Mar 24, 2004 8:49:39 GMT -5
"Resistance for life" A fist with a lasgun? Maybe some Frostbringers insignia on it??? Or maybe some form of symbol denoting production and food?? There are many agriworlds there??
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Post by CELS on Mar 24, 2004 9:52:51 GMT -5
Hmmm, I'll wait for someone to translate that into latin A fist with a lasgun? I generally dislike tech-stuff on crests. Lasguns, tanks, chainswords... but I'm willing to bow to the majority on this How would you place the fist and lasgun on a crest though? Fist on one half and lasgun on other half? And is this for the world Castellan or for the subsector? I actually think a castle or wall would be more appropriate for the world Castellan. For the subsector, I'm not so sure. The crest should display a symbol of the subsector's martial history, but it shouldn't be just that, IMO. Maybe some Frostbringers insignia on it??? I'd think the Castellans to be too proud to show dependence on Frostbringers. Besides, I'm not sure the Frostbringers would be instrumental in defending the Castellan worlds... not directly, anyway, since they'd probably attack the orks while in space. Or maybe some form of symbol denoting production and food?? There are many agriworlds there?? That should be represented on the subsector crest, yes. But is it really a defining aspect of the subsector? How many agriworlds are there anyway? Two?
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 24, 2004 21:59:05 GMT -5
<Kage's fingers twitch over delete function...> Give me a reason, punk... Kage
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 4:52:57 GMT -5
I thought the thread was actually almost getting constructive
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Post by Tynesh on Mar 25, 2004 6:12:14 GMT -5
There are several I believe in the sub...have to check though.
Maybe a wheat sheaf would be good? I do like the castle idea CELS
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Post by Femerenden on Mar 25, 2004 9:20:20 GMT -5
Castellan World i wish. But a crest even for the sub will be great (Hungry Guardsmen...) I like the Fist idea. Saying to the Orks "We are the Boss here!". Yes yes a fist. But has to have a good writing in there. Hmm what about a mechanical or so more guardish fist, may be a very Angelish or Emperorish(Creating something limits my thoughts...). The wording seems like something like we can die to defend the soil of Emperor or smtn like that. But it has to have a fist. "We are the Boss!" Yeah!
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 9:49:30 GMT -5
Femerenden, what does a Guardish, Angelish or Emperorish fist look like? If you want me to draw up this crest at one point, you'll need to explain stuff like that. And we still need to find colours for the crest, as well as additional symbols (otherwise the crest will be dead boring, and not ornate enough for a subsector crest). I have the following requests to everyone who's going to reply to this thread; 1. Be constructive. Kage has made it clear that he's micrometers away from deleting left and right, so we don't need to provoke him further by "Woohoo! Castellan rules! Let's have guns and explosions".... 2. Castellan is both a fortress world and a subsector, and maybe a system as well. When you have an idea, make it clear if it's for the World Crest or Subsector Crest. 3. Keep in mind that I'm supposed to draw a crest based on what you suggest (if Sikkukkut approves of the idea, of course), so I need to know exactly what you want. If you want a lasgun, how do you want it? Lined horizontally, vertically or diagonally? What about the background? Check this thread for the crests I've done for Nagoma, Proteus and Tryphon (formerly Aquina). I'm not saying that these are perfect, or even very good, but this is one way to do world crests. Subsector crests should probably be even more detailed and ornate than these.
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Post by Tynesh on Mar 25, 2004 9:55:55 GMT -5
Red could feature heavily, symbolising the blood lost defending the sub-sector. Green is a bit of a no no.
How about a red field, broken by a top right to bottom left white diagonal, with a black castle in the top left and a white sheaf in the bottom right?
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 10:25:38 GMT -5
Ahh, now we're getting somewhere!
Red typically symbolizes war and military history, so I agree that it should feature heavily.
For your information, yellow and gold represents generosity, white represents peace and sincerity, black represents constancy or grief, blue represents loyalty and truth and purple represents royalty or justice, to name the most important colours.
Green often represents hope or joy, so it's not totally out of the question, but I guess there are better choices for the Castellan subsector.
I'd say white is straight out the window, since there is little peace for the Castellans. Blue is good, representing their loyalty by keeping the sector safe by the blood of Castellan and Massilian citizens. Black is also good, and I very much agree that the castle should be black, to symbolize its constant, unbreakable form.
It's kind of hard to decide on the subsector crest when none of the worlds have been finished, and only a few have been given detailed concepts, but.... how about a black castle representing the fortress worlds, a green sheaf symbolizing growth and hope as the subsector is rebuilt, and a beast such as the lion, wolf, griffin or dragon (!), known as especially tough and resistant creatures? Or maybe the phoenix?
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Post by Femerenden on Mar 25, 2004 11:13:31 GMT -5
For the Planet:
I think that the odd castle is not a good idea we have to add smtn to that crest as well(The fist becomes my regimental banner stay out of that idea pls ;D)
So we got a black fortress and blue color. As all of our designed crests are diveded in somehow we should divede the crest in to at least a two.
I say two diagonals meeting at the middle and going straith to the bottom. Having the fortress at the top representing the worlds primary duty. And this gives us two other places to do. I presume we have a Phoneix to represent the Castella cannot be beaten by any means as it can even come back from death. So this leaves us with one undone part? My mind is to this place.
We must find another colour. Background colour has two options. Red to show the militaristic idea or the blue to show the loyality. I think if you accept my idea blue must be the background as a Phoneix on red will be crap(red on red). The seperators will be red and may be with gold back lining to show that they do not care for their lives to defend the Imperium of man.
But we still have an empty part...
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Post by Minister on Mar 25, 2004 11:48:24 GMT -5
"Green often represents hope or joy, so it's not totally out of the question, but I guess there are better choices for the Castellan subsector."
There is, of course, something else which green represents. ;D
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 11:53:50 GMT -5
Wh... Oh, shut up!
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