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Post by CELS on Feb 27, 2004 9:48:47 GMT -5
Well, I've gone crazy doing crests now, and I've made crests for Proteus (the planet), Nagoma (formerly known as Neshenda) and Aquina (formerly known as Algorex III). The only problem is... I don't have webspace to upload them so you can see. Could someone help me out?
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Post by zholud on Feb 27, 2004 14:16:00 GMT -5
e-mail or PM me for the space.
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Post by zholud on Feb 28, 2004 8:39:59 GMT -5
Here are the crests for Aquina, Proteus and Nagoma made by CELS. What can I say… impressive work, with sole objection – I guess that Proteus should get squarer shield. And I wait impatiently for the definition of symbols.
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 28, 2004 10:04:10 GMT -5
Now those really are quite pretty... Kage
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Post by CELS on Feb 28, 2004 12:59:27 GMT -5
Thanks. Allow me to explain the imagery. Aquina - A planet conquered largely thanks to the support of the Ministorum (i.e. Daughters of the Emperor, Dorvastor and it's founded IG regiments). The black cross is an ancient symbol of spirituality (from christianity), and represents the planet's devotion to the Emperor. Yellow is a symbol of generosity and represents the contributions of Dorvastor (or whichever Ministorum-controlled planet) that were absolutely paramount in the conquering of this planet. The winged skulls represent the sacrifice of the Imperial Guard regiments who conquered the planet. The scepters represent justice, as Aquina takes justice and law very, very seriously. The clenched fist with the lightning bolt represents the wrath of the Emperor, with the two lightning bolts being the well-known symbol of the Emperor. Just a nod to the old man on the throne, what with the world being so devoted to the Emperor and all Proteus Proteus should need little introduction, and the right part of the crest should need little explanation. Obviously, the crest has the typical AM colours. The tower is a classic symbol of grandeur and solidity, and is also a point to the Forge Towers of Proteus. The spears/lances are typical symbols for knightly service and devotion to honour, and are also in honour of the Burning Lances Titan Legion, which are the Knights of Proteus, if you will. Nagoma obviously draws heavily on Japanese inspiration. I hope the rising sun wasn't being too obvious. It's actually quite fitting for Nagoma, which sees some of the most beautiful sunrises in the galaxy, on account of the endless sea and the pollution that gives the sun a red glare. The flower (you did see it was a flower, right?) is a flower specially "engineered" by the Nagomans. It's white for most of the year, but it turns black during one part of the year, which is when Nagoma was once invaded by Dark Eldar and half the population was slaughtered. It is also the symbol of the Honour Guard (Got the last part from the Hwa-Rang, if that means anything to you, Kage ) Not sure what the gold represents, to be honest. It just looked good ;D I'm open for suggestions. So, Zholud, what did you mean by a squarer shield? You mean like a tower shield?
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Post by Rogue Trader on Feb 28, 2004 13:25:26 GMT -5
Wow, those are really good CELS! ;D
I guess I could include them in the Anargo Sector crest...
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Post by CELS on Mar 4, 2004 9:30:32 GMT -5
Thanks, RT. Actually though, I don't think it'd be appropriate to put these on the sector crest, since they're not actually subsector crests. Given time though, I'll make a subsector crest for the Proteus subsector (or whatever it ends up being called). So just focus on the Anargo sector's crest, and maybe we can add some of the subsector crest with some clever copying and pasting later
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Post by Shoulder on Mar 6, 2004 19:02:35 GMT -5
All nice and pretty!
I think the Aquina crest would look even better if the scepters pointed in different directions.
Out of general curiosity, what program did you use for these?
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Post by CELS on Mar 6, 2004 19:34:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the compliment. On the scepters, I'm not sure I agree with that. Besides, it wouldn't be in keeping with the heraldry I used for inspiration.. I used Microsoft's Photodraw v2 for this. Sure, it might not have half the fancy doodads of the latest from Adobe or Corel, but it's a hundred times easier to use than those programs, IMO. If you're looking to buy a program for editing images or *cough* getting it in other ways, I really, really recommend it
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Post by zholud on Mar 7, 2004 11:16:00 GMT -5
Aquina - A planet conquered largely thanks to the support of the Ministorum (i.e. Daughters of the Emperor, Dorvastor and it's founded IG regiments). Was it after 36th millennia, as prior to it the sisters existed at the feral world only for 500 years, so if you liberated planet earlier it is hardly the case. The winged skulls represent the sacrifice of the Imperial Guard regiments who conquered the planet. Why Winged? They were those air-borne troopers from another world of our sector? Or this means “angelic warriors”? The clenched fist with the lightning bolt represents the wrath of the Emperor, with the two lightning bolts being the well-known symbol of the Emperor. Just a nod to the old man on the throne, what with the world being so devoted to the Emperor and all Have the Emperor given permission to use his very own, personal heraldry? Without any royalties? Seriously, I guess it is the honour to receive imperial heraldry on local crests, so what they did? So, Zholud, what did you mean by a squarer shield? You mean like a tower shield? Yes, but only for most military worlds in order to represent their nature. BTW, my Meksumian Alliance of Aether Mariners uses round shield with lover half consisting of spectre colours and upper of white colour, and there is an eye n the centre. The eye is hint to navigators and spectre to white is point on their amalgamation (see thread in Hive sub)
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Post by CELS on Mar 7, 2004 20:48:53 GMT -5
Was it after 36th millennia, as prior to it the sisters existed at the feral world only for 500 years, so if you liberated planet earlier it is hardly the case. Oooh, did not know that. Could you help me with a more plausible date? Why Winged? They were those air-borne troopers from another world of our sector? Or this means “angelic warriors”? The symbol of the Imperial Guard is a winged skull. Just like the symbol of the AM is a black/white skull on a black/white cog. Have the Emperor given permission to use his very own, personal heraldry? Without any royalties? Seriously, I guess it is the honour to receive imperial heraldry on local crests, so what they did? That's a good point.. I shall have to think about why they were given that honour... hmmm... any suggestions? Yes, but only for most military worlds in order to represent their nature. I'm not sure if Proteus is a very military world... and normal crests look better than tower shields. BTW, my Meksumian Alliance of Aether Mariners uses round shield with lover half consisting of spectre colours and upper of white colour, and there is an eye n the centre. The eye is hint to navigators and spectre to white is point on their amalgamation (see thread in Hive sub) Fair enough. But the subsector crest should have the typical shape like the shield on Zark's eagle, so we can have the animation with the alternating subsector crests. Right?
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Post by zholud on Mar 8, 2004 5:37:31 GMT -5
Oooh, did not know that. Could you help me with a more plausible date? I hope to see more concrete dates in the new codex, but from what is known: - Goge Vandire ruled for a century or more, up to 3 centuries IMNSHO.
- He found Sisters on the backward planet San-Leior in the middle of reign and only after that time the became fighting force with power armour, etc.
- Decree Passive is dated 0001288.M36 and was one of the first acts by Thor.
In the newest fluff on Horus Heresy which goes with card game with the same name exist Sisters of Silence which are untouchables/pariahs on the black ships that collect psykers. They are very sisterly, but no fluff on them The symbol of the Imperial Guard is a winged skull. Are you sure? Yes they use a lot of skulls all around, but is it official symbol of IG. But, OK, I agree with such interpretation. That's a good point.. I shall have to think about why they were given that honour... hmmm... any suggestions? something really heroic, like defending Administratum building for a year from rebels/xenos. Something important for imperial (sic!) body that High Lords noted this and ‘with the name of Emperor’ honoured the world. Also other idea – Emperor just stayed there on his way to see the astrographic wonder we have (see Shrine sub thread), so it is just the next stop in pilgrimage. I'm not sure if Proteus is a very military world... and normal crests look better than tower shields. My idea was making Meksumian shield in rococo/baroque style just to point their non-military, indulgencing and even sybarite nature. Fair enough. But the subsector crest should have the typical shape like the shield on Zark's eagle, so we can have the animation with the alternating subsector crests. Right? Right
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