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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 28, 2004 10:11:57 GMT -5
I've decided that I'm going to create in my limited spare time a small (ish) eldar ship for the Factory but wondered if anyone had any particular imagery to work with? At the moment I'm keen on a small armed scout ship by the name of the Manta (and drawing inspiration from the real creature of the same name in terms of shape, etc.), but thought that I would open it up... Kage
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Post by Engel on Feb 28, 2004 11:25:06 GMT -5
Greetings Kage, bet you can't guess who this is. The name is, obviously, up to you, but Manta is rather Tau-ish to me, simply because it's aquatic, and Eldar vehicle seem to have mythological or avian names, but that's your piece there, not mine. Scout vehicles tend to be rather small, perhaps having it look like a larger version of the Vyper, which looks rather neat, and infinitely meanuverable in any case, though I would dispense with the weapon mounting and wide the wing span, perhaps making the cock-pit room for two, one behind the other. Could look very individual, unique and Eldritch of course.
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Post by zholud on Feb 28, 2004 11:45:14 GMT -5
Greetings Kage, bet you can't guess who this is. Welcome to the project, Herr Inquisitor!
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Post by CELS on Feb 28, 2004 12:24:57 GMT -5
Welcome to our forum, Engel! I think Engel pretty much speaks my mind. Manta sounds very Tau, and I do believe they already have a machine of that name in Epic 40,000. (Checked; They do indeed). Also, Eldar vehicles seem to have mythological or avian names, but if you want to deviate from this, you could always write it up so that the Imperials have a nickname for the vessel. Sounds incredibly interesting both for RPG and fiction purposes though! I'll think more about imagery. Could you be more specific on the purpose of the craft though? Scout, yes, but what does it scout? Is it keeping an eye on the humans, on the orks, on the necrons, on the Eldar homeworld, on warp gates, on the craftworld.... what?
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 28, 2004 14:19:42 GMT -5
How about a small assault ship of some description? Large enough to carry several Vampires and a squadron of Nightwings or Phoenixes, armed with D-cannon and sonic torpedoes.
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Post by CELS on Feb 28, 2004 14:37:37 GMT -5
The thing is, Kage isn't very keen about the Eldar having any kind of fleet in the sector, and much less be engaged in any kind of large scale combat...
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Post by Sojourner on Feb 28, 2004 15:15:01 GMT -5
Perhaps this particular item is outside the Anargo sector for the time being? Perhaps to be worked into the plot later as a rescue mission/raiding fleet/salvage mission?
OK, I see what Kage's after now, some sort of *other* Eldar ship?
How about a funeral barge? That is, a ship containing spirit stones and Wraithguard, cast adrift for whatever reason? Perhaps to save them from a Tyranid attack on a lost craftworld?
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 28, 2004 20:54:22 GMT -5
Greetings Engel... and LordFenric if he's checking in on this thread. Glad to see that you dropped by. With regards to the name, I must admit that it was something I came up with before the Tau were created and it has developed it's own momentum. I shall remove it at the moment, but at present it describes more the basic form (i.e. ~ disc-shaped fore compartment with rear-projecting 'tail'). I'm keen on something other than warfare but one that will be used in ASP, thus a scoutship seems entirely probable. The size is up for grabs, however... The eldar fighter craft that I had in mind was akin to something that was kind of like the 'raised angel wing' shape of the Vyper, but one whose 'fighting configuration' (thinking 'x-wing' here) was more similar to the basic shape of the Centauri fighter in B5. But that's another story. Kage
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Post by CELS on Feb 29, 2004 7:50:11 GMT -5
So I take it you haven't fully decided on the purpose of the ship, since you neglected answering my question about it..?
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 29, 2004 18:28:32 GMT -5
As I said, it's a scout ship. They, well, scout but not necessarily a spy ship or a survey ship. Something that can be used by an Outcast (or maybe a group of Seekers)... One thing that is up in the air is whether it will have a small (single) crew or something else... Kage
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Post by Minister on Mar 1, 2004 4:54:18 GMT -5
Eldar ships do traditionaly have a smaller crew than their equivelants in the Imperium, so if we go the the hundreds mark we're into full-scale warships. So we're probably looking at something around 100-200 metres, with a crew of about a half dozzen and space for a small raiding party at a push (the smallest that seems reasonable to me for long-duration independant travel). This also gives it space for a full grav-drive as oposed to having to rely partialy on thrusters.
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 1, 2004 6:39:14 GMT -5
<grin> That might be a tad big for a 'scout ship'... And, of course, the ship could be 10m long and it would still be able to have a grav drive! I'm wondering why you were going for the 'large' ship? Kage
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Post by Minister on Mar 1, 2004 12:56:43 GMT -5
I was assuming a long-range probe vessel capable for opperating for a number of years without support, therefore I thought something fairly large (but still small enough to fit onboard a capital ship) would be in order.
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Post by Sojourner on Mar 1, 2004 13:20:12 GMT -5
Like a Yacht, then...
Like the captain's yacht on the Enterprise E...
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 1, 2004 17:12:12 GMT -5
I was assuming a long-range probe vessel capable for opperating for a number of years without support, therefore I thought something fairly large (but still small enough to fit onboard a capital ship) would be in order. Remember that the eldar technology is vastly superior to that which we see evidened (normally) in the Imperium. Almost any of their vessels - and I only say 'almost' becuase it's never good to make 100% statements! - are going to be very, very self-sufficient. They need no refuelling (either energy or reaction mass), food can be produced through technology (although rather bland!), the ship will tend to repair itself over time... etc. It's another reason that I wanted to create an eldar ship... just to show that there is a difference between eldar ships and those of the breeders! ;D Kage
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