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Post by Tynesh on Apr 26, 2004 4:51:54 GMT -5
I believe that regiments on the most part are founded in response to a particular threat.
Military resources will be raised on the planet undert attack etc, in the form of PDF regiments. If the situation escalates then new regiments will be drawn from systems ithin a widening sphere of influence around the 'problem'.
This said many regiments may become part of a crusade and journey far from their homeworld.
Other battlezones may require the expertise of a particular regiment and therefore the approriate regiment will be order up so to speak.
Due to the great size of the Imperium and its vast number of pencil pushers mistakes are common and regiments may get sent all over the galaxy for no real reason.
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Post by CELS on Apr 26, 2004 5:23:13 GMT -5
I believe that regiments on the most part are founded in response to a particular threat. Well, yes, but there are always threats, aren't there? If it's not in the sector, then at least one of the neighbouring sectors will be in need of assistance. So in times of special need, I suppose extra IG regiments are raised, but normally the Imperial Guard does what it can with the tithed regiments. Military resources will be raised on the planet undert attack etc, in the form of PDF regiments. If the situation escalates then new regiments will be drawn from systems ithin a widening sphere of influence around the 'problem'. Yep. This said many regiments may become part of a crusade and journey far from their homeworld. Other battlezones may require the expertise of a particular regiment and therefore the approriate regiment will be order up so to speak. Yep. Due to the great size of the Imperium and its vast number of pencil pushers mistakes are common and regiments may get sent all over the galaxy for no real reason. Hmmm... I don't think so. The fluff mentions Imperial forces being sent to save worlds that have been dead for centuries, and that kind of stupidity, but I take this with a huge pinch of salt. If Proteus came under attack, no one in the Anargo sector would sit around and wait for the Adeptus Terra on Earth to react. That there would be occassional episodes of Imperial forces getting their orders decades or centuries too late is quite likely (at least with backwater regions), but I consider it a rare occurance. |
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Post by zholud on Apr 26, 2004 7:43:00 GMT -5
I'm going to raise this point in an established thread rather than creating a new one... Do not Imperial Guard regiments tend to be stationed and/or sent to locations that are spatially quite distant from their Founding worlds? Generally the fluff has it both ways, so ‘what ever you prefer to believe to’  From the one hand the Imperium is pseudo-totalitarian state and e.g. UUSR specially send mobilised guys as far from home as possible because you can always trust to the troops hated by locals… because they depend on you and not only vice versus.  |
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Post by Kage2020 on Apr 26, 2004 8:08:22 GMT -5
While the 'pseudo-totalitarian' nature of the Imperium is up for grabs (though I note the introduction of 'pseudo' to that zholud; many thanks!  , that might be the simplest means of addressing the situation. In the case of Castellan, regiments can be raised and posted locally. External regiments can be imported as required to make the Castellan regiments effective (the whole 'single regiment' situation is tenuous at best)... But in non-war subsectors, it would seem that non-local regiments would be the best way to go. Perhaps that could be remembered when creating 'fluff' for worlds. Kage |
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Post by Minister on Apr 27, 2004 3:37:19 GMT -5
But surely in non-war sub-sectors there would be no Imperial Guard, other than any on garison dutu for those worlds who can't raise a decent PDF, and possibly a standing batalion or two maintained as a fast reaction force?
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Post by Tynesh on Apr 28, 2004 7:50:24 GMT -5
Yes, the IG is effectively a last resort to an invasion etc. Most non war zones will be defended by PDF regiments, obviously they are well trained and equipped etc. The IG is only formed when an invasion or military threat is apparent it would seem. Each sector or region will have the infrastructure in place, like factories and commanders it is just that no formal regiments will exist. When the time comes IG regiments will most likely be formed from the existing PDF.
Some planets will use the IG as a tithe payment, with IG sent off to all over the galaxy most never to return. Sniff
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Post by Witch-Finder General Kyron on Jul 11, 2004 12:07:17 GMT -5
The Darien 12th the "old venerables"
The 12th Regiment was raised as part of the 3rd tithe payment from Darien in M32. The regiment saw action in the dread times of he Age of Apostasy in M36, most notably at the 2nd siege of the Emperor's Palace. The Regiment had sustained 70% casualties including 95% of the officer corps and 82% of the Regiments vehicles by the time the Adepta Sororitas ended the Siege.
Since then the Regiment fought at Ichar IV against the tyranids and against the orks during the 2nd and third wars of Armageddon. More recently the regiment has been "retired" to the Anargo sector where they were founded, and are assigned to the Castellan Subsector where their experiance against orks and genestealer cults are put to good use.
It is rumoured that, in light of their long and glorius tour of duty, they will be released to join the next Rogue Trader explorator fleet, due to pass the sector and map the Sargossa Subsector in 999.M41.
The uniform of the Darien 12th is standard issue Proteus pattern flak armour, with the Officers preferring traditional naval dress, but in red to differentiate btw the regiment and Imperial Navy personnel.
The regiment maintains an original Tigrus pattern Vanquisher, the sole survivor of the 3rd (Armoured) Company's heroic charge at the fiftieth tower during the siege of the Emperor's palace in M36. It is awarded only to veteran tank crews who have distinguished themselves through bravery above and beyond the call of duty.
The regiment has found favour with Witch Finder General Kyron during the scourging of Pedis IV, and often accompany him on more overt operations.
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Post by zholud on Jul 11, 2004 20:42:38 GMT -5
The regiment saw action in the dread times of he Age of Apostasy in M36, most notably at the 2nd siege of the Emperor's Palace. The Regiment had sustained 70% casualties including 95% of the officer corps and 82% of the Regiments vehicles by the time the Adepta Sororitas ended the Siege. Just quick question - on which side they where? I hope they collaborated with Vandire... or they are just another group of good guys? And why they were shipped so far away? |
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Post by Witch-Finder General Kyron on Jul 12, 2004 0:22:39 GMT -5
Good guys im afraid - the ordo hereticus probably wouldn't let them live if they fought alongside vandire, let alone allow them to return to their home sector.
They were shipped so far away because it is Imperial policy to post Imperial Guard regiments a long way from their homeworlds at the beginning of their tour of duty in order to prevent desertion.
There is however a twist in the tale, as it's sister Regiment - the 13th "Cursed Comets" fought alongside Vandire - artillery guns belonging to the 13th were among those responsible for the destruction of the 3rd (armoured) company. The 13th was then broken up into a "Battalion of Detachments" and is currently engaged on a penitent crusade encompassing some of the most suicidal battle zones in the Imperium. Other detachments have fought and been decimated in the path of the Tyranid hive fleets on the Eastern Fringe, and the 1st and 5th Companies took part in the ill fated Damocles Crusade.
The 13th regiment are said to be cursed, and they are always unpopular amongst other Imperial forces and citizens. Even the Adeptus Astartes refused outright to serve alongside them.
The 13th have adopted a black and dark crimson uniform in penitence for siding with Vandire, and in mourning of their officer corps, who were executed for Heresy in M36.
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Post by zholud on Jul 12, 2004 4:57:57 GMT -5
Good guys im afraid - the ordo hereticus probably wouldn't let them live if they fought alongside vandire, let alone allow them to return to their home sector. If Adeptae Sororitae were allowed to live, why not IG? After all most IG regiments siding Vandire were quite possibly more religious on average and as such a valuable asset for Imperium. Pentient Crusade – yep, but not total execution I guess. Plus, recall that the Ordo was created after the fall of Vandire…  It worked on Earth, but when you are a system away, to desert is as hard as if you are Segmentum away. I see how to make the idea more sound – Departamento Munitorum sends them far away because neighbouring systems are usually settled by people with common heritage, thus problems with intermixing with locals. Anargo sector present time has not yet reached 999M41 time, no battle for the Cadia yet. |
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Post by Sojourner on Jul 13, 2004 1:35:27 GMT -5
Who said it was anything to do with BCXIII?
There's always fighting around Cadia...
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Post by BrotherAnimosus on Jul 23, 2004 8:30:22 GMT -5
That true. I've noticed that no stormtrooper regs. have been discused. Anyone want to hear about a pet Stormie reg? |
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Post by BrotherAnimosus on Jul 30, 2004 13:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by Minister on Jul 31, 2004 10:49:49 GMT -5
Dorvastor does have several Storm Trooper companies on it (whther they're independant formations or a single regiment was never pinned down).
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Post by BrotherAnimosus on Jul 31, 2004 20:40:28 GMT -5
Would it make sense that the companies that have been deployed on Dovastor be from one regiment, and would it also be feasible that they are from a world within the sector?
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, that might be the simplest means of addressing the situation. In the case of Castellan, regiments can be raised and posted locally. External regiments can be imported as required to make the Castellan regiments effective (the whole 'single regiment' situation is tenuous at best)...
