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Post by Rogue Trader on Dec 7, 2004 10:42:48 GMT -5
Hi everybody, it's been quite awhile since I last posted any artwork on the boards so I thought I might share some of the stuff I've been doing lately, though it has nothing to do 40k. (I am working on some sketches though so maybe I'll get something done around Christmas) First up is a painting I've titled "La Guitarra"  |
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Post by Rogue Trader on Dec 7, 2004 10:44:46 GMT -5
The quality of the pics is not that high but it will have to do for now... This one is a painting of the great John Coltrane.  here is a self-portrait  |
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Post by Rogue Trader on Dec 7, 2004 10:47:20 GMT -5
"Naked Woman on Couch"  all the paintings are oil on canvas, I've got lot's more but these are the ones I like to show to people. |
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Post by Dazo on Dec 7, 2004 16:18:43 GMT -5
Wow thats some good stuff, is that cubism or abstract
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Post by CELS on Dec 7, 2004 16:27:27 GMT -5
Not my style, I'm afraid - though I do like the colours in the painting of John Coltrane. Nice to see that you've been productive though  |
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Post by Rogue Trader on Dec 8, 2004 20:24:47 GMT -5
Wow thats some good stuff, is that cubism or abstract It's Cubism (except the self-portrait, I would classify it as Surrealism). Abstract art is entirely non-figurative, though I must admit that Cubism is at times bordering on the completely abstract. |
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Post by rsljudd on Jan 4, 2005 8:52:36 GMT -5
personally i don't like that sort of art, :-[it's not my sort of thing........ BUT.......... i can appreciate the effort and work that's gone into it to acheive the desired affect ;D |
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Post by Tynesh on Jan 4, 2005 9:32:07 GMT -5
Nice work there, could be said that they make a comparison in appearance to stained glass. Mostly in the separation of the colours. Great!
RSLjudd, interesting point you have there. A few summers ago my family visited the Guernica in Madrid. I infuriated my father (both parents are art teachers) by remarking that I didn't like Picasso et al. I understood it as being a personal view someone has taken of the world or a subject. But in it's presentation it is unclear what they are showing - is it a beautiful woman or a freak made from triangles???
Give me a Turner or Constable any day, something you can look at and imagine yourself there. Being able to capture a 'real life' image of our world and make it lifelike is good art for me, the artist can fool the eye into believing it is real.
Paintings that represent something do not do it for me as much as realism.
But I must say RT pics here are very impressive in showing your skill, particularly with colour.
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jan 4, 2005 11:54:41 GMT -5
RSLjudd, interesting point you have there. A few summers ago my family visited the Guernica in Madrid. I infuriated my father (both parents are art teachers) by remarking that I didn't like Picasso et al. I understood it as being a personal view someone has taken of the world or a subject. But in it's presentation it is unclear what they are showing - is it a beautiful woman or a freak made from triangles??? Give me a Turner or Constable any day, something you can look at and imagine yourself there. Being able to capture a 'real life' image of our world and make it lifelike is good art for me, the artist can fool the eye into believing it is real. Paintings that represent something do not do it for me as much as realism. I guess we're diametrically opposed as far as art is concerned then   I personally have next to no interest in "realism" (that's the job of photography if you ask me), I feel that a painting should not be a replica of what the eyes see but a representation of what the artist feels is there. I feel that realism is, in itself, dishonest as it merely fools the eye into believing that what it sees is real. Anyway enough ranting, I've come to the conclusion that if I am to make anynore artwork for the ASP I'm going to have to change the focus of the work to a more "abstract" style... I don't know if it'll work though, but I'll post anything as soon I as I make it. |
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Post by Philip on Jan 4, 2005 12:05:55 GMT -5
Guess you are going to hate my art… As for real art: I grew up in an artist family, so I’m second generation and taught by my farther. As for realism, yep you are correct photography does a better job. As for abstract art, you can’t top writing, and as for artistic writing Japanese characters are beautiful and what I consider the pinnacle of modern abstract art. As for me, I see my work as conceptual/ carrying on the ideas of the Pre-Raphaelites only the myths now are 40K! As for much modern art, it is more philosophy personification; it is not so much the art that is great as the idea behind it. As for your work - they are too restrained, I think you need to let rip and find you own ‘language’. If it’s good: don’t worry people will identify with it. Hope that doesn’t offend you… |
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jan 4, 2005 12:23:00 GMT -5
There is no art that I hate, except perhaps "pop-art"... I agree on that, except that personally I don't believe that there is such a thing as "abstract art"; even the most abstract painting must start from some idea or concept, no artist can divorce himself entirely from the painting he is making (which is necessary for the it to be truly abstract). Anyway I'm rambling again...  I agree entirely with that! ;D You're right, I am trying to develop my own style and I see these as the first steps towards that. Not all, I love discussing art and getting some feedback! ;D |
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Post by Philip on Jan 4, 2005 12:36:43 GMT -5
I agree on that, except that personally I don't believe that there is such a thing as "abstract art" About the size of it, think of it as souvenirs for the tourists Writing is the only true form of ‘abstract art’ because it is based on abstraction, and ‘requires’ someone to tell you want it means (much the same as with many pictures hanging in galleries, you are either in the know - or you aren’t, however unlike language, ‘abstract art’ is elitist.) Not all, I love discussing art and getting some feedback! ;D Then you are an artist, time for you to fly. ;D |
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Post by rsljudd on Jan 6, 2005 7:03:43 GMT -5
I guess we're diametrically opposed as far as art is concerned then .......
,  when it comes to abstract/cubism..yepI personally have next to no interest in "realism" (that's the job of photography if you ask me), ........... ermmm this is 40k! ,show me a pic of necromunda or ultramar and i'll hang up my pencils and take up photography . all i'm saying is art is a very personal thing, (kage despises colour,as is his oppinion/preferance) for all i know your all into *shudders*.jazz,which is great if that's what you like..but,not for me, i know your an acomplished artist R.T.......i like the way you've seperated the colours with light/dark on ''naked woman on couch'', but that's more about your technique than the overall picture  but , sorry it just doesn't do it for me ,as i see it we're trying to make sci-fi/fantasy *which is unreal*as realistic as possible to make it belieable??IMHO ;D.......btw keep up the great work, and no offence meant, this is after all only my oppinion and as such means nothing and is not a critisism of your ability as an artist ;D ;D lets just agree to disagree ....as i see it the only reference we have is what the artist at GW have thought up? that for us is the only ''realism'' we can judge our work on as a yard stick? |
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when it comes to abstract/cubism..yep