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Post by Sojourner on Jul 27, 2004 1:36:47 GMT -5
Like I said, mumbo-jumbo AKA philosophy. As far as I'm aware it has yet to produce any results.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 27, 2004 1:55:47 GMT -5
<grin> Ah, spoken like a true 'hard' physicist without the tempered 'soft' physics of the New Physics... It is amazing, however, how often 'hand-waving philosophy' or cultural belief comes up with something later 'proven' by physics or 'science' in general. Of course, one might look at the origin of the word 'philosophy' as well... Regardless, however, hand-waving science is just as applicable to the 40k universe as the less hand-waving kind. (And I'm amused at the HI's opinion on particle physics! ) In fact, arguably sometimes it is more applicable since there are a few more 'holes' to work through...
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Post by Destecado on Jul 27, 2004 9:28:25 GMT -5
Holographic theory does hold interesting possibilities as do the theories that exist behind fractal patterns. True they haven't been fully proven, but then again, the theory of relativity doesn't explain everything either. We can only go with what is know or what we think we no so far. The problem with science as with any other field of thought is that it is dogmatic.
I had hoped that this discussion would bring up new ideas of how to look at psykers and their abilities, but perhaps we should instead just stick with the old adage, "There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your dogma", and leave it at that. Let each person define it as they will.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 27, 2004 13:01:22 GMT -5
Again, though, the problem is that the 'fluff' has always been fairly consistent on psyker powers if one allows for the bias given by a preferred interpretation of psionics/magic. Psykers channel 'warp energy' to generate their effects... That is their defining criteria, i.e. any indiviudal that is capable of channel is a psyker. For me, and rather unfortunately, simply stating that it is magic works for me. Magic explains nearly everything about psykers in the 40k universe... That doesn't help the premise of the thread, however, but again I simply comment that the 'scientific explanations' of magic have always seemed more hokey than not. One has to remember that this is somewhat hypocritical, but still...
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Post by Sojourner on Jul 29, 2004 1:59:35 GMT -5
- Codex Imperialis
Give anyone any ideas?
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 29, 2004 3:25:33 GMT -5
Nope. It seems that you're trying to suggest that that little ditty of 'fluff' supports the utilisation of the Uncertainty Principle? I must be misinterpreting what you're meaning since that would be a bigger stretch than a member of the Fantastic Four...
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Post by Sojourner on Jul 30, 2004 5:46:18 GMT -5
Nothing of the sort, just thought it was appropriate to the discussion.
And it's a cool quote.
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