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Post by Tynesh on Mar 25, 2004 9:15:43 GMT -5
Found the problem Fem!
Looks like you are wanting to use an army from Castellan, the capital world of the sub. It would appear that the army has been dispatched to Massil to bolster the defences of the planet. There is absolutley nothing stopping you taking Leman Russ in your army, after all they come from a different planet, which is closer to the rest of the sub than Massil. There is no reason why the Castellan IG couldn't bring along their own tanks to join the garrison force. All I am saying is that the local PDF forces do NOT utilise Leman Russ chassis vehicles:)
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 9:36:46 GMT -5
I have to agree with Femerenden, actually. The almost complete lack of a main battle tank is very critical, especially against an enemy such as the ork. The Imperial warmachine is utterly dependent on its armoured regiments, the hammer striking upon the anvil. However, I have fallen in love with the idea of the Medusa modified with extra armour to fight as a front liner, so here's my suggestion. After the 'Great Conflict', Massil lost its Leman Russ STC data and the Leman Russ manufactoriums were destroyed. As a result, the modified Medusa came into use, and whatever Leman Russes remained, were formed into armoured regiments. This act robbed the PDF infantry regiment of the armoured support of the Leman Russes, which is where the modified Medusa comes in. After the 'Great Conflict', Massil has asked the Administratum to request the Adeptus Mechanicus to aid in the rebuilding of Leman Russ manufactoriums, but the request has been declined so far, as Massil is judged as having good enough defenses considering its strategic importance and the likelyhood of a major invasion. In the event of an invasion, the Imperial Guard can just send a few of their armoured regiments to help anyway. The result? Well, most Massil PDF battlegroups will be heavy on infantry and artillery, and have Medusas as armoured support. Massil will still have some highly valued, ancient Leman Russ regiments. Absolutely arcane tanks, probably with vanquisher pattern cannons and other loveliness. Femerenden, I suppose you could have a Massil PDF army with a Leman Russ tank. Say it got away from its armoured regiment somehow... or something. And of course, instead of going with basilisks, you should get Medusas I think you'd be better off with a Castellan army though, especially if you want super-heavies...
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Post by Tynesh on Mar 25, 2004 9:45:48 GMT -5
Sound reasoning their CELS........
... that was one point I was trying (and failing) to convey, that Massil doesn't like the Leman Russ, it just can't produce them.
Those that exist either come from other external IG regiments or are ancient artifacts, that only a select few can operate and an even smaller number of tech-priests can maintain.
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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 9:57:26 GMT -5
Cheers. Let's hope you'll be more successful in conveying that in Massil's standard representation. Speaking of which; should we expect to see a standard representation of Massil anytime soon? ;D (Smooth, huh? ) I really fell in love with the idea of arcane Leman Russ regiments... They could have gold trimmings, lots of purity seals, maybe even paintings on them of great heroes or saints... Hmmm... or maybe I'll steal that idea for the Imperial Guard regiments of the Proteus subsector capital... ;D
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Post by Femerenden on Mar 25, 2004 10:50:45 GMT -5
And there will be a rule that if you loose a Leman Russ in a game you will only score a draw; because you caused an ancient artefact destroyed by the enemies of the imperium. And for army purposes i am going for a Castellan army; cause i love bringing in Super-Heavies in large games and we play large games a lot(As no one here cannot make one-on-one army lists successfully). I love the Medusa thing but hows they going to be? Armour same as the Leman Russ? or else? And i hate the medusa model Just give me an Armoured Comp. Full of Leman Russes(Vanq. Conq. doesn't matter) i will own any table top other than the 21 lascannon of doom IW army at 1000 pts And if we come to the Massil. My regiment do not love to sit and wait so they are taking the fight to the Orks... And i think at least one regiment from every sub has to show up in Massil as those brave mans are defending their future as their homes are peacefull...Ain't they?
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Post by Sojourner on Mar 25, 2004 12:15:29 GMT -5
That poses the problem of an opposing player going out-and-out to destroy your tank(s), which he will if he makes the effort.
Perhaps count their destruction as double victory points or something. I really like the concept of 'relic' tanks though.
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 26, 2004 5:55:57 GMT -5
There is some forthcoming information in the next Oracle from Portent which will have a bearing upon the inclusion of regiments in the Anargo sector. I fully support this article (you'll see it when it comes out!) since it creates a Guard organisation which actually makes sense... (And also alludes to some of the concepts that I created donkies-years ago, although I'm certain that the author didn't know about these). Anyway, keep your eyes open since the information contained therein will ultimately be used here... Kage
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Post by CELS on Mar 26, 2004 12:40:34 GMT -5
Hmmm, I'm looking forward to seeing that. I believe Andy Hoare when he says that GW has given it a lot of thought and decided to base the Battlegroups used instead of Battalions and Divisions on the German Kampfgruppe, but... I think they went in that direction just to make the Imperium unique and old-fashioned. When is the next issue out? Oh, and guys, remember that discussion about the wargaming aspects of the project, such as special rules, special characters, etc go in the Wargaming forum, in case you want to go into further detail about stuff like that
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 26, 2004 17:51:17 GMT -5
Oh crap... old fashioned is not good. Their tactics are practically medieval anyway. Oh dear oh dear... Kage
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