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Post by CELS on Mar 25, 2004 4:50:41 GMT -5
Sounds good to me. Except that it sounds like a bloody hassle to travel a thousand light years just to throw off the Imperial investigators... As for the daemon-choir... obviously, daemons can only stay in the physical realm for so long. Daemon-hosts would be better, but I imagine that he'd need some pretty fancy rituals to keep a whole choir of daemon-hosts ready at all times. As for strange artifacts... none at the moment. We're open for suggestions though
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Post by hairyheretic on Mar 25, 2004 12:32:24 GMT -5
Sounds good to me. Except that it sounds like a bloody hassle to travel a thousand light years just to throw off the Imperial investigators... True. But telling your agents to report a sighting elsewhere is much easier. Send the Imperials on a wild goose chase. As for the daemon-choir... obviously, daemons can only stay in the physical realm for so long. Daemon-hosts would be better, but I imagine that he'd need some pretty fancy rituals to keep a whole choir of daemon-hosts ready at all times. Deamonhosts, thrall wizards, rituals, an artifact ... we can come up with some justification I'm sure. As for strange artifacts... none at the moment. We're open for suggestions though Let me think on it.
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Post by Minister on Mar 27, 2004 20:38:51 GMT -5
Personal opinion, scrap the Thousand Sons bit. In fact, scrap all Marineyness. Make him a Chaos renegade, perhaps originaly an Imperial Navy officer who got fed up with the opressiveness of Imperial rule and decided to change thiongs, resorted to piracy when things went bad, then mercinary activity for some unpleasant people... The whole slippery slope thing.
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Post by Kage2020 on Apr 2, 2004 16:02:17 GMT -5
Of course, to really yank the chains of the Inquisition you could quite simply make the "Wolf" a Grey Sensei... Then again people will get twitchy about this since the Sensei are one of those things that remind people of the old and good days of the 'fluff' and the fact that GW have remained quite silent on this matter. (The Chaos Cult thing was too obviously a red herring...) Kage
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Post by Minister on Apr 3, 2004 14:03:29 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on Grey Sensei, never realy liked them too much. What I'm trying to do is keep away from the marine-centric view of the universe.
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Post by Kage2020 on Apr 3, 2004 17:36:46 GMT -5
And what, out of interest, is it about the Grey Sensei that doesn't get the 'ole juices flowing? Or is it that you just don't like the whole Sensei/Star Child 'fluff'? A manifestation of the fact that the older material is tending to fall into disfavour in the modern GW environment? <Kage deliberately prods Minister for the fun of it! > Kage
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Post by hairyheretic on Apr 4, 2004 5:49:43 GMT -5
I had toyed with the idea of using a Grey Sensei, but wasn't too sure how many people would be familiar with them. Even the last mention of the sensei in official fluff was claiming they were a Tzeentchian plot.
I figured a single Tzeentchian sorcerer would be the easiest way to fit this in.
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Post by CELS on Apr 5, 2004 4:01:11 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the grey sensei. Would someone care to give a quick rundown?
And obviously, D, a tzeentchian sorceror doesn't have to be a traitor marine. I think it'll be more interesting if it's just some centuries (or millennia..?) old human sorceror, who once started out as a mere cultist.
As for people not liking the whole Star Child / Sensei / Illuminati thing... well, I don't really care. It's just too cool to be ignored, and GW has obviously not forgotten all about it. The bit in the back of the 3rd Ed rulebook about the tzeentchian cult was obviously a teaser and a reminder. If they wanted to get rid of the whole Star Child idea, they could have just neglected it, as they did with the squats.
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Post by hairyheretic on Apr 5, 2004 4:05:32 GMT -5
Short answer is a sensei that has turned to chaos.
And whilst a sorcerer doesn't have to be a marine, I figured the marine would be the most likely individual. Easy enough to change though .. what about, say, a Rogue Trader?
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Post by CELS on Apr 5, 2004 4:15:20 GMT -5
Rogue Trader... LoL! Reminds me of the novel For The Emperor.... "In the years since, many theories have been put forward as to the true identities of those responsible, the vast majority of them laughably paranoid, but a careful sifting of the evidence can lead to only one conclusion; the unseen hand behind so much mayhem and treachery is unquestionably that of the rogue traders." ;D
Anyway, I thought the whole point with the Sensei was that they were immune to Chaos....?
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Post by Kage2020 on Apr 5, 2004 11:04:28 GMT -5
The warp runs naturally through them and they are, for the most part, invisible to the predations of Chaos. But some downright have the audacity to voluntarily side with the Ruinous Powers... They are already psykers of a form, though the nature of this was not specifically made clear. I personally am for as many references to the older 'fluff' as possible since, for me, it still exists. The GW revisionism policy is full of holes (except with the game rules where they can do what they want) and taking a historical and propaganda approach is just full of merits! Again, for me... Kage
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Post by Minister on Apr 5, 2004 16:33:33 GMT -5
The idea of a living incarnation of the Eperor/Star Child entity turning to Chaos just... well... don't like it.
Besides, I am a great fan of the Star Child. Provides for the Emperor's daemons theory.
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Post by Kage2020 on Apr 5, 2004 19:09:41 GMT -5
A Sensei is not a 'living incarnation of the Emperor' not by a huge long-shot. They are just biological children of the Emperor that are invisible to him and which have their own destiny to create... Kage
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Post by CELS on Apr 10, 2004 6:28:49 GMT -5
Just for the record; I'm also against the Grey Sensei idea. The Emperor was given his powers to combat Chaos. It wouldn't make sense if his very offspring could be corrupted.
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Post by Minister on Apr 10, 2004 14:12:36 GMT -5
Kage, I do apoligize. I'm mixing my own conspiracy theories and such like with the actual published stuff.
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