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Post by Kage2020 on Nov 29, 2004 22:46:26 GMT -5
Well, technically not a submission but since it is appearing in a forum other than one of the Imperial subsectors, I thought that I would post a quick pointer to the appropriate thread. Anyway, it can be found at the following link: Comments, as always, are welcome. I already know it is a sucky name, but there we go!  |
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Post by CELS on Nov 30, 2004 10:18:10 GMT -5
Just in case you're getting impatient; I'm working on it. But it's not exactly a Haiku-poem, is it? It might be a day or two before I can actually finish it and eventually make some comments |
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Post by Kage2020 on Nov 30, 2004 18:26:51 GMT -5
Excellent... Remember, however, that it remains a work in progress. I've also deleted the "Authors Note" that explains that while I believe it to be one of the better interpretations of the eldar (in general) out there, that if you don't like that aspect you can consider it to be a quirk of Lugannath first, and the colony world second...
Looking forward to some constructive comments.
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Post by Destecado on Dec 6, 2004 17:36:53 GMT -5
I'm still trying to work my way through all of the information, but at first glance it looks good...I will try to flesh out the concept of the "estecado" Clan as soon as pooible. I have Wednesday off, some maybe I can finish reading this and work on the Clan as well.
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Post by schoon on Dec 6, 2004 20:21:28 GMT -5
Having just skimmed over it, I have this comment:
It appears that there's an awful lot of "Sourcebook" material there that has very little to do with the world.
While knowing all the Eldar paths is nice, I doubt it's necessary for understanding the system. I suspect that some of your Eldar Sourcebook crept into it at various points...
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Post by Kage2020 on Dec 6, 2004 20:58:51 GMT -5
Yes, it did. But a discussion of all the information in the SR is a discussion of the eldar since there is very little information to go on. Understanding the significance of the Path, for example, is way underestimated. Indeed, somewhat disappointingly you can see this misunderstanding cropping up in the canonical sources where me are returning to a elven magocracy... :-\
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Post by RascalLeader on Dec 10, 2004 19:59:24 GMT -5
I thought it was excellent. However like Schoon I thought it was a bit heavy on the ‘Sourcebook’ material. Mind you I enjoyed that as much as any of it, but perhaps it would have been best if you posted most of the stuff separately, and strip it back to just the world’s data.
However I am fully aware from the stuff I have done how much of this information tends to link together; where each ‘ends’ is often a defunct consideration. It never completely works that way and will always overspill. However in the long run separating them will make it easier for Current Members ,New Members and visitors to browse the information.
After all when your looking at a systems description you would hardly suspect that it contains information about the Elder as a species as well as information about Craftworld Elder as well.
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Post by TheGlyphstone on Dec 11, 2004 5:47:11 GMT -5
I say keep the Sourcenook stuff, it's interesting and it's the only way I at least will ever get to see it. I'll read through it later, and my opinions may change.
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Post by Kage2020 on Dec 11, 2004 9:36:00 GMT -5
It would be more useful if comments were not posted in General, but rather Eldar where they belong. But thanks... I ask you to consider one thing: How have the other worlds been represented? Have they, for example, been formatted in such a way that cultural information is required? Yes, as stated above it is partially "Eldar Sourcebook" information, but for the most part it contains the same level of detail on the system and, indeed, more than many of the other SRs in terms of the world itself. To reiterate, part of the requirement of the SR is that information on the culture of the world be produced. For the eldar this means going over some of the things that we know and extrapolating others. Consider Archiaos as a human example. And break one of the fundamental concepts of the ASP: to give the people reading the information the tools to fully immerse themselves in the 40k universe without having to refer too much to outside information. It is not good, for example with the eldar, to merely list military resources and the odd city description and then say "See all eldar source material that has ever been published and make your own mind up on their culture." While I prefer this as my interpretation of the eldar in general, I also ensure that there are several levels of 'caveats' to comfort people who feel that any interpretation that goes beyond the extremely limited information on the eldar is a bad thing. (I for one do not believe the mythological cycles in any way 'detail' the eldar.) Yet that is what is happening with the SRs of the worlds of the Imperium. That's only part of the Sourcebook information. Since 'Fenric is still mired with writing the PhD I'm going to end up writing it more specifically to my interpretation. Another one of my pet little projects since it doesn't take that long to write an SR but it does take a long time to come up with a fairly decent culture! Anyway, since the purpose of this thread was to draw peoples' attention to the appropriate thread in Eldar - people never seem to notice some of the boards - then I'm going to have to lock this thread. Please direct further comments to the informative thread, the link of which is posted in the first post of this thread. |
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