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Post by CELS on Aug 4, 2004 12:58:48 GMT -5
Maybe some kind of flak cannons to take down incoming torpedoes? Anti-torpedo missiles, perhaps? Autocannons would be last ditch indeed. With their low range, the explosion from the torpedoes might still damage the ship.
Numbers... Lots and lots and lots. Definitely more than 100. Probably less than 500.
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Post by Minister on Aug 7, 2004 4:31:49 GMT -5
For the Lunar I'd arbitrarily assigned the following:
Secondary Weapons Systems: Forty-eight Dragnok-B pattern heavy defence lasers; One hundred two Centus MK II point protection mounts (quad-mounted supercharged "Godhammer Plus" lascannon in each); Two hundred eighteen Godren IX last-ditch defensive mountings (one Dantax III heavy autocannon and four Mithran II autocannon in each).
If we establish this to be "right", we increase by about 50-150% in effectivness (although not necicarily numbers) to get a Retribution. However, after looking at it again, I'm thinking that it might be on the high side. It's all a matter of opinion.
Oh, and interceptor missiles are not in any of the books and so, reguardless of how much sense they make, I'm inclined to leave them out.
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Post by Sojourner on Aug 7, 2004 7:05:48 GMT -5
Heavy defence lasers? What are these?
Equivalent to battle cannon? volcano cannon? bigger?
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Post by Dazo on Aug 7, 2004 7:16:19 GMT -5
Ah your clearly to young to remember, defense lasers were the mega weapons of 40k when it first came out they later changed the name, a bad decision in my opinion to volcano cannon, which is just crap, their effective range on a world was limited only by the curvature of the planet
point protection ahhh yeahh, is their not a bigger longer ranged assault cannon you could use
Are those like the gattling cannons mounted on titans
I'd give it several turbo laser batteries as well, just to be on the safe side
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Post by Sojourner on Aug 7, 2004 7:39:39 GMT -5
Nope, I remember what a defence laser is, just unconvinced that this device is one of them. A PDL is more like a Lance, IMO...
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Post by Minister on Aug 10, 2004 9:51:31 GMT -5
Drat, forgot about the defence lasers, although in my mind they're always planetary defence lasers (and I still see them as diferent from the volcano cannon anyway, but hey...)
Basicaly, I needed names for the type of weapons. The defence lasers would be titan-scale weapons, the other lasscannon would be equivelant of a "mega-lascannon" from the 40K rules, and the autocannon as being a combination of Hydra scale and slightly larger.
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Post by ErnestBorgnine on Aug 10, 2004 12:24:54 GMT -5
The engine plumes referred to in various fluff are not necessarily for propulsion. Rather, they could be exhaust form the coolant system. Since Imperial ships don't have obvious radiators, unless imperial energy efficiency is a lot better than I guess it is, all those reactors are putting out a lot of waste heat. Start firing energy weapons and the problems gets a whole lot more serious. Even at nearly perfect efficiency, if you're pumping gigawatts of power at your enemy, you're getting megawatts of waste heat to deal with. Waste heat dumping could be accomplished by circulating coolant and then dumping it out the back, which would incidentally provide additional thrust beyond that provided by reactionless motors. I'm just throwing that out there to deal with the fluff/art dealing with exhaust plumes. For further thoughts on thermodynamic principles as limiting factors on spaceship design, see: www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13148&highlight=and www.denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/04/SpaceNavies2.shtmland armor.typepad.com/bastardsword/2004/05/warship_power_s.html
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Post by Kage2020 on Aug 10, 2004 13:28:43 GMT -5
Perhaps, Ernest Borgnine, you would care to take a look at the "sublight propulsion" thread. I love building ships and hence the reason for this thread... but questions and concepts need to be determined first, e.g. the nature of Imperium sublight propulsion systems. (And have taken the step of purchasing GURPS Vehicle Designer so that I can do things quickly and easily... but unfortunately canonically. Hence the need to select the most appropriate 'drive system' so that I don't have to monkey around with the figures in, for example, changing water to hydrogen and arbitrarily imposing 'weird physics' fuel consumption rates... ) I can also see myself having to post the GURPS space opera space combat system as a means of translating the weapons of the ships into figures that can be abstracted... Actually, zholud... I don't suppose you have a copy of GURPS Compendium II that you can OCR the appropriate sections to? Or anyone for that matter... I don't have it to hand, and it would be far too useful to have to hand and, at least at the moment, I don't have the time to type up huge swathes of text as I have done in the past.
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