|
Post by ZoomDog on Dec 28, 2003 2:43:29 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 28, 2003 8:07:44 GMT -5
Have you been able to recruit anyone for this part of the project yet, Zoom? Kage
|
|
|
Post by ZarkTheDamned on Dec 28, 2003 8:49:38 GMT -5
I'm still interested in helping out if you like.
I have been a bit geeky recently and worked out a way of making customisable sites (via CSS that the user can select from) which may be of some use. It doesn't use CGI or PHP or anything complex, just Javascript and CSS sheets, so you wouldn't need to install any extensions to use it.
|
|
|
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 28, 2003 9:16:27 GMT -5
Erm... Excellent. I think. Okay, what does that mean!? Kage
|
|
|
Post by ZarkTheDamned on Dec 28, 2003 16:05:10 GMT -5
It means that people who visit the site can pick different colour schemes from a few on the site. Normally this would require installing extra packages onto the web server such as CGI or PHP to allow this, but my script is written entirely in Javascript so no extras need installing. I put up a test page for this - deepblue-digital.co.uk/mysharedaccounts/mprothero/skintest.htmWhen you click on one of the numbers, the colour scheme changes. It's the same web page, but interpreted using different style sheets. Also, if you leave the site and go back to it later, it'll remember your choice. There's not a whole lot of difference between those schemes, but I've been too busy recently to really work on it much. I do intend to extend the project at a later date though.
|
|
|
Post by ZoomDog on Dec 28, 2003 19:44:35 GMT -5
Good to se your still with us Zark. The page you created is interesting, although I don't think we're going to be able to use that technique with this project. We could have a small option that allows users to change the colour scheme, but it's not that important at the moment. That said, it does show that you have some good skills with javascript and cookies, both of which will likely come into play. Good to see! I'll start doing some work on the site soon, promise Still getting over the whole chrissy thing, and preparing for new years.
|
|
|
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 28, 2003 21:56:51 GMT -5
AFAIK we were going to have a form of 'data-slate' approch to the ASP, i.e. the information was represented as if it was presented on an Imperial 'PADD' (or data-slate, or electrobibliograph - whatever you prefer). Thus the whole abundance of green screen to give it that archaic look...? At this point I'm reminded of information being presented from the opinions of other races, in which case a separate graphical interface might be appropriate...? I seem to recall that this was possible with program interfaces so it would seem reasonble here... (Which perhaps goes to show how much I now about web-programming, etc. ) Kage
|
|
|
Post by ZarkTheDamned on Dec 29, 2003 7:31:06 GMT -5
OK, Data-slate style it is then. I'll do a mock up or two for it.
Although IMO rather than a data slate, maybe make it look like a computer terminal?
(I am assuming that by Data Slate you mean those hand held devices sometimes shown in pics)
As for different appearances for different races, that could easily be done via CSS (in a similar way to the skins on the test page).
|
|
|
Post by Kage2020 on Dec 29, 2003 8:07:47 GMT -5
Although IMO rather than a data slate, maybe make it look like a computer terminal? Potentially, yes. I've always gone with what I call the ' electrobibliograph' where technology is hidden behind the mundane. In this case the mundane form is a book which, when opened, takes on the form of computer screen and control mechanisms... This is an important part of the adeptus mechanicus for me. There is always the presumption that they do not use technology (i.e. that all information is recorded in books and on scrolls), whent his need not necessarily be the case. But anyway, that's slightly OffT here... As for different appearances for different races, that could easily be done via CSS (in a similar way to the skins on the test page). That seems fair enough. How much storage space are we talking about for each of these skins? Kage
|
|
|
Post by ZoomDog on Dec 29, 2003 20:38:20 GMT -5
Alot of the 'Imperial computer terminal' feel is going to come from images, rather then simple colours. This means that if we are going to go for the different looks for different races, we need to change some pictures as well as colours. Can this be done with css as well Zark?
|
|
|
Post by McHaggis on Jan 1, 2004 12:42:31 GMT -5
Presumably that would just be changing the ‘skin’ of the terminal so yes?
|
|
|
Post by Sikkukkut on Jan 2, 2004 3:00:10 GMT -5
The Gaunt's Ghosts section of the Black Library website is done up as a dataslate skin, if you want to have a look at that. I'm not suggesting that we duplicate it, necessarily, but it shows one possible approach to doing it.
|
|
|
Post by Kage2020 on Jan 2, 2004 4:06:09 GMT -5
Thanks for that, Sikkukkut. Indeed, that is quite interesting although I would be more keen for the 'hidden tech' look than the retrotech. But I'm open to this one... guess it depends on what the web artists produce...? Kage
|
|
|
Post by ZarkTheDamned on Jan 4, 2004 12:16:11 GMT -5
Alot of the 'Imperial computer terminal' feel is going to come from images, rather then simple colours. This means that if we are going to go for the different looks for different races, we need to change some pictures as well as colours. Can this be done with css as well Zark? Yep- that's how I'm changing the pics on the test page I put up. The main problem is that the images would have to be the same sizes and positions- for example, a 'homepage' button would always be x by y pixels and at z location. I haven't found a way around this without using javascript document.write functions.
|
|
|
Post by ZarkTheDamned on Jan 4, 2004 12:19:51 GMT -5
That seems fair enough. How much storage space are we talking about for each of these skins? Hopefully not too much, although it does mean new images and stylesheet for each skin. Depending upon the sizes of the images, I'd say somewhere around 30-50k max for each set, although possibly higher if the site is very image heavy.
|
|