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Post by Philip on Feb 2, 2005 19:31:41 GMT -5
Right, so Eldar Telepathy is like talking, you can be careful what you say, and another can forcefully extract information;
Would this mean that as Eldar listen passively that they will hear all the sent messages, so it sounds like a busy pub, or is it like a pager or mobile phone and the Eldar can actually target their message?
For example: Do the send messages have telepathic ‘frequencies’, and the empathy ability allows an Eldar to lock onto the correct frequency?
Or is the Empathy part of the message, and acts to ‘encrypt’ to message, so that all the extraneous messages that aren’t empathically bound appear as white noise and therefore filtered out?
The Eldar are one of my favs too, but I am reluctant to commit to a design as I keep changing my mind (as I think of new ways of doing it). I thought of originally comparing the Eldar telepathy ability in ‘contemporary communications technology’ so that as humans we have a common base as to understand how the society can work/ function.
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 2, 2005 23:07:48 GMT -5
Right, so Eldar Telepathy is like talking, you can be careful what you say, and another can forcefully extract information... Forcefully extracting the information requires effort and is generally not 'native ability' amongst the eldar as a species. With that said there is always personal variation, or the exception that is the rule with GW material... Would this mean that as Eldar listen passively that they will hear all the sent messages... In the exception of globally projected messages, I would imagine that the communication is directed. This does not mean that you cannot eavesdrop on it, but it's more like a radio transceiver to a dedicated reciever than everyone with a receiver tuned to the same frequency. For example: Do the send messages have telepathic ‘frequencies’, and the empathy ability allows an Eldar to lock onto the correct frequency? I think that this is possible, but only with the moderation of other features, e.g. their "technomancy". In other words this is where the Infinity Circuit moderates. Or is the Empathy part of the message, and acts to ‘encrypt’ to message, so that all the extraneous messages that aren’t empathically bound appear as white noise and therefore filtered out? I would imagine that it has nothing to do with encryption but a whole lot about attunement. When an eldar 'actively' communicates they attune the message to the 'aura' (if you will) of the receiver and, as a result, the receiver hears. This does not mean that you cannot listen in or hijack that message, but that requires training. I'm talking about 'native' ability here, not trained ability. The Eldar are one of my favs too, but I am reluctant to commit to a design as I keep changing my mind (as I think of new ways of doing it). Oh I get torn between one representation and the other, but as I have said elsewhere the current version works best.
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Post by Philip on Feb 3, 2005 12:49:40 GMT -5
So a basic humans tech analogy of the system; The Eldar’s natural ‘telepathic’ ability is like broadcasting an audio message over WiFi (where all ‘WiFi’ in a short range can make connections to each other if they so choose) and the web-way/ Infinity circuit is like the base station?
Or a pager that can link to the net?
I just thinking of the base system dynamics, not the actuality of the system.
So if a humans was trying to duplicate this ability using technology, it would be like having an implanted device (transmitter/ receiver) in their head that can be written to/ spoken into by thought and broadcast directly to another device or hooked up to a network for greater coverage?
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 3, 2005 19:24:33 GMT -5
So a basic humans tech analogy of the system... I reply to this little chunk with extreme reservation since it often leads to somewhat spurious assumptions and approaches, at least for 'magic' (psionics, whatever). The Eldar’s natural ‘telepathic’ ability is like broadcasting an audio message over WiFi (where all ‘WiFi’ in a short range can make connections to each other if they so choose) and the web-way/ Infinity circuit is like the base station? No idea. Quite simply, for me, the eldar are able to pick up basic information from people (more empathy than telepathy) generally. They can 'transmit' if required (every body is a receiver in this sense), though unless trained the information is not necessarily privileged. As to the Infinity Circuit, it's a medium for a communication. The eldar communicate with the IC and the information is either 'redirected' through it or active Mind Send is initiated by the IC itself. So if a humans was trying to duplicate this ability using technology, it would be like having an implanted device (transmitter/ receiver) in their head that can be written to/ spoken into by thought and broadcast directly to another device or hooked up to a network for greater coverage? Machine telepathy... The mechanical means would be more flexible, though.
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