Worlds other than Tir'asur?

Mineral-rich moons with a low gravity might make good ship yards, no? But then, a large presence of heavy minerals usually tends to cause a higher gravity, I guess.

I guess even the Eldar would have monitor stations too. Sure, they have powerful psykers with acute senses, but I don't think they are completely aware of everything approaching their system.

Other than that, I don't really see the point in having small colonies on other planets or moons in the system. Gas giants are pretty much useless to Eldar, I guess, and it's not like they need entire seperate worlds for agri-culture, research or industry.

I guess they might need some extra mining on other moons, planets or asteroid fields, but considering their small population, that depends very much on the age of Tir'asur. If they've only been here for some millennia, then they probably don't need extra mining.

I would suggest that it wasn't a "rant", but rather a suggestion that focussing upon the military aspects of the colony was not particularly useful at that juncture...

Ship-yards... At present I'm not entirely keen on the idea of 'ship yards', at least in terms of the production of capital or larger ships. While they have the knowledge and the capability, I'm working on the idea that they are easier to import...

Monitor stations... These are definitely included in the system and include both warp and materially based versions. I'm working on the principle that un-manned (eldared? ) will be present at or around the 'warp zone' (whatever that may be defined as; see Meta) as well as those points with significant 'mass shadows' (gas giants).

And interestingly enough one has to wonder at the utilisation of both robotic and 'ancestor' (wraithlord) 'remote' ships...


Getting to the two millennia age...

Mining... That is one of the things that they actually do as a means of supplying basic minerals for the 'material creation' of wraithbone and other psychoplastics...

If they've only been here for some millennia, then they probably don't need extra mining.

Any reasonably sized craftworld is capable of producing capital-ships. And even by your chain of logic, if it is rare to find a craftworld capable of 'exporting' a capital ship, wouldn't it be just as rare - perhaps even more so - to find a colony world capable of doing the same?


No, you just don't like the idea. There's a difference. While the 'fluff' does tend to view the Ancestors as 'dead' it is clear that they still take an 'active' part in craftworld life thus making the true mortuary concept defunct.

Again, it was just a concept. There is little difference in having a 'remote' ship and having a ship with a crew and an Infinity Circuit...


It's possible... but for me the major requirements of carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, titaniums, aluminiums... that type of thing.


I call them? Inconsistent use of terminology, more like. I hereby suggest that a Webway Gate(way) is a defined structure commonly found on worlds. A Webway Portal, on the other hand, is more a volume of space and is therefore more hazily defined. It is the latter type that is normally found in space.


There are, indeed, both Webway portals and gates within the system and on the various worlds, respectively. The only problem here is that there is a general 'idea' that there is only one Webway "entrance" per system, a concept that I find invalid.

It's a toss of coins. Why build shipyards in a system and not on the home craftworld where they are more usually located.

I'm going to hold off on this idea since it seems entirely suited to preference given that there are equal arguments both ways, more so if you follow through with the ones presented above. If I do include it I may do so as a transitional state, but still not one that is capable of producing capital ships. These come from the home craftworld... (Not as if there are really that many capital ships in the system...)


How does importing


My answer was somewhat more sharp than intended. However, you alluded to the mortuary aspect of the Infinity Circuit in absence of reference to the - how shall I say - more dynamic aspects present in the rest of the 'fluff'. Therefore it becomes a matter of preference, i.e. you dislike the image since it jars with that which you have of the eldar... As far as I could tell.

Again, it's a part of the 'fluff' transition... if you're only aware of the 3E 'fluff' then a holistic approach does seem implausible, especially when filtered through cohesive perception. I have the same problem when dealing with the newer material...


Again, see the above. The Ancestors seem to have a different idea, though. They're more than willing to 'break their rest' or 'slumber' to look at some pretty eldar in garish colours prance around on stage...

Remember that 40k has been gradually shifting to almost exclusive fantasy imagery. I try and incorporate both with the concept of 'craftworld gestalt conscious' (the slumbering eldar) and those that wish to take a more active part.


It changes from the graveyard, to a communications centre, to a computer... it all depends on who writes it and what image they are trying to achieve at any given time. There is very little cohesive 'fluff' on them...

Thats a damn good idea, but why stop with the seers might other groups not also have an interest in having a private base/place to go. Its not like it would entail difficult journeys what with the webway and all, mearly like stepping into another room.

what about a research facility and proving grounds? The state of eldar technology is not static. They still move forward in the cnstruction of vehicles, weapons and other technology. It would therefore be prudent to have a place to test these devices safely.

This idea goes hand in hand with the "not in my back yard" syndrome. Everyone agrees that there is a need for testing facilities, power plants, waste disposal and processing facilities, but noone wants it near them. By removing it to a small moon or one of the other "unihabited planets in the system, you avoid this problem. It would also make security easier as well.

What about having training grounds on one of these other worlds. I mean, young Eldar have to learn how to use their vehicles or weaponry, and it would be unwise to try all that out on the Craftworld, or "too near" habitated areas.