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Post by Zidagar Dinoman on Jan 25, 2004 14:34:03 GMT -5
Has there been an discussion of Dark Eldar activity in the sector? As far as worlds, all they would need would be some Webway portals on planets and perhaps a small pirate base. I'm thinking a medium sized Kabal, with 10 or so cruisers and twice as many escorts that preform hit and run strikes against Imperial convoys and small planets.
-Dinoman
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Post by malika on Jan 25, 2004 14:46:08 GMT -5
I didnt knew Dark Eldar had pirate bases...
Well would the entire kabal be there, or just a small number of the kabal's forces, or what about a heamonculus coven with a small number of kabal allies
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Post by CELS on Jan 25, 2004 17:29:58 GMT -5
10 cruisers? Doesn't sound like a small pirate base to me! I suggest more like 2, maybe 3 cruisers.
There hasn't been much discussion of Dark Eldar activity though. Kage doesn't like them much, so has given us very free hands with these. Of course, he doesn't want to see them dominate the sector in any way, which I'm sure everyone can appreciate.
We need to make two considerations when discussing Dark Eldar. 1) There's not very many of them, so a pirate base with millions of the aliens wouldn't be very likely. 2) If they got to be too powerful, it's likely that the Imperials would have given them a short visit with, say, a battle barge and some strike cruisers. Yes, the Dark Eldar are fast, but hiding a space port that can house ten capital ships is a worthy task even for these snakes.
So let's keep things small, but interesting. This isn't supposed to be a completely wartorn sector, and at the moment, the orks are proving to be a mouthful for the Imperials.
Are there any Dark Eldar fans with any ideas btw?
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Post by malika on Jan 25, 2004 17:34:09 GMT -5
Im a DE fan, I could come up with some ideas...I agree with keeping the number of DE forces low, I need to know if the fluff takes palce after the EOT campaign, because the DE webway portals got closed or something, so the DE in the Anargo sector might have very low number, and with hardly any reinforcements...maybe they are just trying to hide and once in a while attack for souls, but still very very carefull...
Maybe they have some alliance of a temporary nature with the Alpha Legion who (hopefully) will be present in the anargo sector, maybe they will even hire themselves out as mercenaries
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Post by CELS on Jan 25, 2004 17:41:52 GMT -5
Hmm, Dark Eldar forces allying with Chaos? I'm no expert, but don't Dark Eldar hate chaos? I mean, Slaanesh is eating their souls, after all....
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Post by malika on Jan 25, 2004 17:55:12 GMT -5
they might hate slaanesh, but they might ally with a chaos force who worships another god..or undivided force...they might ally with them to get more souls and then in the end try to backstab the alpha legion forces, but the alpha legion is planning on backstabbing the DE as well...that could be cool
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 25, 2004 19:47:01 GMT -5
I shall keep an eye on this thread, but otherwise at the moment I will also keep out of it. The DE are one of those 'new things' that I'm still trying to come to terms with (yes, even after two-and-a-half-years of them.) The original suggestion of all those cruisers was weay off base, however. The scale of conflict offered by BFG is, for me, not entirely consistent with the scale of battle that the eldar - even the Dark Eldar - would normally engage in. Kage
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Post by Zidagar Dinoman on Jan 25, 2004 19:57:26 GMT -5
Sorry for over-estimating the number of capital ships. I 2-3 sounds more acceptable, more along the lines of Space Marine fleet sized.
I envision the Dark Eldar as more like pirates than mercenaries, allied with another force only to get booty and more importantly: slaves. I doubt ANY Eldar, dark or craftworld, would ally with Slannesh, and the Craftworld Eldar hold their hedonistic kin in lower regard than the mon-keigh.
I'd be more than happy to explore this in more depth if we want a small Dark Eldar force.
-Dinoman
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 25, 2004 20:02:28 GMT -5
Perhaps we could step beyond the concept of thinking only of the DE in terms of a force... Damn, with the DE I know how dubious that sounds but this type of what I call 'wargame logic' is something that should be avoided... Kage
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 8:56:46 GMT -5
So how would this work? Are the Dark Eldar ships capable of travelling through the webways? Would they transport slaves to Commoragh (sp?) using their ships, or would they be dependent on using weway portals on planets?
If the Dark Eldar ships can reach Commoragh from anywhere, I don't really see the point of a big base. Maybe a small one, far away from any Imperial sector. I really don't know much about Dark Eldar...
If they do have a base, I don't think they would be interested in making it much more than a simple refitting station. Granted, not all Dark Eldar participate in the slave hunts, I suppose, so maybe the base would have some gladiator arenas, and a tiny resident population. Perhaps even a staging post for Dark Eldar raids further into the Imperium, further away from Commoragh?
What about choice of the Kabal? Would we be inventing a new one, or using one of the major ones? Do we know anything about the difference between the kabals?
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 9:03:13 GMT -5
well...dark eldar do fight as mercenaries sometimes, I mean their numbers are very low, so maybe they have no choice...
the mercenary bit, it was in a WD, the one with the vampire counts army book (5th edition)
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 26, 2004 21:19:24 GMT -5
If the Dark Eldar ships can reach Commoragh from anywhere, I don't really see the point of a big base. Maybe a small one, far away from any Imperial sector. I really don't know much about Dark Eldar... That is indeed the point... Kage
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 21:27:57 GMT -5
Yes, and it's also why we were stuck with talking about how many cruisers and escort ships would be present, since that's all there would be Of course, there are other questions that need answering too, the most important of which I have already mentioned, I believe.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 26, 2004 21:41:37 GMT -5
<grin> DE are not my 'thing' and in terms of creation my interest begins and ends with the implications in terms of the overall eldar 'fluff' and the impact upon the Anargo sector as a whole. Kabals can be established ones or created. If a base is wanted, then there must be some justification since the Webway allows extremely rapid transportation when compared to that of human warp travel... If the base is termed a 'refitting station', what are the concomittant implications with regards to DE technological production... etc. Kage
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Post by HighInquisitor on Jul 19, 2004 22:28:16 GMT -5
Maybe the Kabal has been cast out of the Commoraagh. Maybe the Archon has made Asdrubal Vect angry or something and now they are laying low and keeping low profile. Staying out of the way of the Imperial Forces and other Dark Eldar, gathering strenght. They could do some small scale raids to get slaves and resources.
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