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Post by CELS on Sept 27, 2004 9:18:57 GMT -5
Hello boys and girls. This is supposed to be the first in the line of many summaries. Eventually, the ASP forum should have a lot of summaries which summarize previous discussions of this forum, so that members can easily (re)familiarise themselves with important events, concepts, etc.
Other important summaries could be "The Inquisition", "The Horus Heresy in the Anargo Sector", "The Adeptus Mechanicus", "Calculated warp travel", and so on.
Eventually, all these summaries should be put in the archives. Of course, first they have to be approved by Kage (or myself, in his absence) and discussed if people disagree with the content based on previous discussions (The italics are there to remind people that even if you don't personally agree with the summaries, most of us to have to accept a common interpretation).
Now, without further delay....
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The Overlords of Sargassos
During the Age of Technology, cirka 100.M23, a large colonisation fleet arrived in the area of space that has later been known as the Sargassos subsector of the Anargo sector. The people from this fleet found several rich and habitable worlds and began the colonisation of what would become an empire. Whilst the rest of the region was still in its infancy, the empire in Sargassos enjoyed much trade between their star systems and many scientific advances. The empire did in no small part owe its success to the advanced technology they brought with them, and one of their key strengths was their use of intelligent machines. Giving them a fantastic advantage in scientific research, various administration and military tasks, the intelligent machines became an integral part of their society.
During the Age of Strife, many human civilisations in the Anargo sector suffered greatly during periods of intense warp storms. Some teetered on the brink of total collapse, as the sudden lack of trade led to great food or water shortage. In periods of calm in the warp, the empire in Sargassos reached out to these other worlds, and colonised them. The Sargassos empire now had over a dozen worlds around the sector under its control. Though these acts saved billions of lives, as well as bringing a lot of wealth to the empire, many of the colonised worlds resented their new masters. The rulers of the empire, called the Overlords, were hated on many worlds, where people felt that the empire should give the other worlds their independence back now that they had got back on their feet.
Shortly after the Age of Strife, during the Great Crusade, the armies of the Emperor plowed through this region in their quest to unite Mankind. The Primarch Alpharius followed with great speed, and when he discovered the Sargassos empire, he saw a great chance to make up for lost time after the late founding of his Legion, and earn some glory.
Though the Overlords of Sargassos were initially keen to reach an agreement with the Emperor's forces, Alpharius claimed that their very culture was an abomination, and that they nearly worshipped the soulless machines which had been so close to destroy Mankind in the past. In the name of the Emperor, Alpharius destroyed the Sargassos empire in a swift and brutal war that lasted only months. Though countless innocent civilians were killed, and many of the Emperor's soldiers died needlessly, Alpharius and his Legion received great support from the many worlds in the sector which had once been under the rule of the Overlords.
When the Emperor arrived however, he applauded the actions of the Emperor's actions, but barely mentioned the accomplishments of the Alpha Legion, perhaps because he knew that the destruction of the Sargassos empire was uneccessary. Alpharius was greatly disappointed and angered by the Emperor's reaction - an anger which would only grow untill his fall in the Horus Heresy.
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There it is. Of course, this isn't everything there is to say about the Sargassos empire, and I'm sure some people will want to know more about their culture and technology. But keep in mind that this summary is just intended to enlighten the people who don't know what the 'Cursed subsector empire' or 'Pre-Age of Strife culture' mentioned elsewhere on the forums is.
Now... comments?
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Post by CELS on Sept 30, 2004 13:50:46 GMT -5
No comments, so since everyone is apparently fine with this, I'm putting it in the archives
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Post by malika on Sept 30, 2004 15:42:33 GMT -5
Ok..this is weird...since yesterday this board shows as if nothing has changed during that time...so Im reading this now for the first time.
Im curious about these Machines, are there still remainders left? Perhaps that could be another plot for later times in the Sargassos Subsector.
But perhaps make Alpharius not look as if he did such a bad thing...I mean the impression I get is that he destroyed that Empire unnessicarily. But perhaps make it that he had to destroy them in order to have the Imperium rule there. However the Emperor (probably influenced by Guilliman) refuses to see this and doesnt praise Alpharius.
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Post by Destecado on Sept 30, 2004 17:36:52 GMT -5
I'm hoping that the term "Overlords" is how other cultures described them. Based on the original information I posted about the Mezzan (the culture in question), they did not seek to rule worlds directly. The systems were incorporated by making them "client worlds: of the mezzan. If nothing else the Mezzan were generous to a fault the client worlds, but they did expect some considerations in return. It revovles pretty much around the idea of nation building. The Mezzan were attempting to stabilize their borders and ensure peace in their own systems by creating strong allies that would be favorable towards them. It was hoped that by sharing their prosperity, they could not only eliminate hunger and disease, but the chaos and violence that they caused. Food and medicine were not the only things that the Mezzan brought to client worlds. They brought education and technology. Some whispered that the education offered by the Mezzan was brainwashing the youth making them into Mezzan while their own culture eroded away. Others viewed the technology as a means by which the Mezzan were creating new markets for their goods...giving them scraps of their technology or creating lower cost and more reliable devices which drove local firms and producers out of business. This of course the view of those that are from outside the Mezzan culture. for an overview of the Mezzan, take a look at the Sargassos Subsector before the Greate Crusade. Im curious about these Machines, are there still remainders left? Perhaps that could be another plot for later times in the Sargassos Subsector. In creating the Mezzan, I was toying with the idea of perhaps one or several worlds of the culture still existing within the Sargasso Gulf. The Imperial ships were unable to strike at this (these) planet(s) due to the effect that the Gulf has on warp travel. One of the things that had been discussed was perhaps a lessening of the turbulance at the Heart of the Sector (the reason why rogue traders may be sent in). The turbulance at the Heart of the Subsector directly feeds the Gulf, so as it has lessened, the gulf has begun to shrink. Some of the systems that were previously within its boundaries are now open to warp travel. It may be that remainders of the Mezzan could be found on these worlds. There are also worlds within the Subsector where you may not find machine intelligences, but you may find remnants of the Mezzan culture. The system 28,43,47 - G-VI - AA7A8A6-E N Wa 102 Im 1F(32) is such an example. This water world has a High Stellar (E) tech level. It could possibly have floating (ant-grav) cities that house its enormous population. The cities may have originally been built by the Mezzan, but taken over by the Imperium. It may have been one of the original systems that fell to the Alpha Marines, and therefore much of its technology survived intact. But perhaps make Alpharius not look as if he did such a bad thing...I mean the impression I get is that he destroyed that Empire unnessicarily. But perhaps make it that he had to destroy them in order to have the Imperium rule there. However the Emperor (probably influenced by Guilliman) refuses to see this and doesnt praise Alpharius. The Imperium of Man and the Mezzan would never see eye to eye. The Mezzan viewed the Imperium as warlike and barbaric. No civilization built on the conquest and subjigation of others lasts (look at the Romans). The Adeptus Mechanicus wanted to negotiate with them. The Machine inteligences that were part of the Mezzan population were like "living" embodiements of the machine god. The Mezzan viewed the Adeptus Mechanicus as a perversion of their tenants (more of this is explained in the thread linked above). Negotiations would have eventually come to an impass and broken down. The Adeptus Mechanicus might have been blind to this, but Alpharius would have seen this eventuality. Perhaps he made bargains with factions within the Adeptus Mechanicus to support him in exchange for any technology they might capture. He also probably had spys and intelligence units among the client worlds finding out as much as possible about the Mezzan. He would have found out that they had a very small military and that for the most part they were pacifists. This along with news of his fellow primarchs gaining victories throughout the galaxy while he was forced to stall his advance while the diplomats negotiated might have spurred him into action. The beginning of the war was swift. The Mezzan were ill prepared to deal with this unexpected and unprovoked attack. Eventually defense would have stiffined as the Mezzan mobilized. The problem as I see it from the point of the war with the Mezzan is that Alpharius' strategies and tactics would have been based on fighting an enemy that had many of the same goals or drives as himself. The Mezzan from his way of thinking behaved illogically. In the first month of the war, the Mezzan did not exploit the advantages he left open to them nor did they defend their planets beyond the initial landings. The populations almost gave in without a fight. All signs pointed towards a swift victory. After a month however, the situation completely changed. Worlds that had seemed well on the way to pacification erupted into violence. The enemy fleet put up much greater resistance, requiring the focussing of much of Alpharius's resources. I was thinkng of having the battle come to a head in the systems where the super nova shell is. The Mezzan fleet put up stiff defense of the system, which cause the Alpha Marines and their Adeptus Mechanicus allies to deploy more assests. The weight of the Alpha Marines carried the day. The Mezzan fleet retreated in disorder, with ships flying away at multiple vectors attempting to flee the system. Alpharius second who was in command of the invasion saw this as an attempt to draw their ships away from assaulting the planet, so he allowed the remain Mezzan fleet to escape, with only a token force to chase them. As his forces moved on the main mezzan world in the system, the sun went nova. destroying not only the worlds, but the Alpha Legion fleet in system as well. The loss of these ships and the the marines on them, severly curtailed the Alpha Legions operating ability. When told the new, Alpharius personally ordered the extermination of the population of one of the occupied planets in retaliation. Any thoughts?
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Post by malika on Oct 1, 2004 4:10:32 GMT -5
Sounds good...but I still would like to see the idea that the Emperor wasnt really impressed with Alpharius' tactics here, the Emperor's judgement would probably have been influenced by Guilliman (strengthening the rivalry between Alpharius and Roboute)
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Post by CELS on Oct 1, 2004 9:50:30 GMT -5
Ok..this is weird...since yesterday this board shows as if nothing has changed during that time...so Im reading this now for the first time. Well, no one ever claimed this forum was reliable... Definitely. The thing is, Alpharius didn't just destroy the machines and strip the empire's rulers of their rank. He destroyed the empire. Yes, one might say that it was necessary to do what Alpharius did. The question is; where do you draw the line? I'm hoping that the term "Overlords" is how other cultures described them. Based on the original information I posted about the Mezzan (the culture in question), they did not seek to rule worlds directly. The systems were incorporated by making them "client worlds: of the mezzan. Definitely. History is written by the victors, after all. Thus, they are known as the Overlords of Sargassos, because the Imperium wanted to make it seem like a good thing that they were destroyed. I will include this, and other things you have written in the summary. Very, very interesting And this is where the factions of the Adeptus Mechanicus comes in. Certainly, many within the Adeptus Mechanicus would admire these machines, but others (the 'puritanical' kind) would not. It is also possible that the negotiations came to an impasse because the members of the Adeptus Mechanicus could not come to an agreement about the Mezzan machines. The puritanical members of the Adeptus Mechanicus, more than anyone else in the Imperium, would hate these 'soulless' machines. This works very well, if he made bargains with radical factions that later supported him in the Horus Heresy. We could even place one of the Traitor Titan Legions in the Anargo sector at the time of the Great Crusade. Explain how they had the same goals and drives as himself, and how this is a problem. Also, why did they behave illogically from his point of view? This because the Mezzan were pacifists? Erm.... unless the Mezzan triggered the nova (which was probably beyond them), I think it is unlikely that the Alpha Legion would go near such an unstable star. They would have pretty advanced sensors, after all, and would probably know which stars were stable and which were not. Sounds like something he might do.
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Post by Destecado on Oct 1, 2004 12:14:13 GMT -5
Sounds good...but I still would like to see the idea that the Emperor wasnt really impressed with Alpharius' tactics here, the Emperor's judgement would probably have been influenced by Guilliman (strengthening the rivalry between Alpharius and Roboute) It may be that Guilliman was whispering in the Emperor's ear. From reading the fluff it seems that one of the main reasons that Alpharius turned traitor was because he did not feel that he was given his due as a tactician. He always saw himself overshadowed in the eyes of the Emperor and others by Roboute Guilliman. It might also be that the diplomats from the Adeptus Mechanicus or Administratum which were attempting to negotiate with the Mezzan might have also complained to the Emperor. The Emperor's Great Crusade was reliant upon the Adeptus Mechanicus, perhaps he underplayed Alpharius' victories in an attempt to molify the Adeptus Mechanicus or at least that faction that was opposed to his command decisions within the Anargo Sector. I've been reading throught the Index Astrates article about the Alpha Chapter in order to gain better insights into what may have caused Alpharius to attack. In the fluff it talks of Alpharius' first encounter with Roboute Guilliman. After that meeting Alpharius pushed his legion harder and sought out the most difficult challenges to prove his tactics were better than the rigid structure promoted by Guilliman. The fluff also states that Alpharius never sought personal glory or honors and would rarely attend victory celebrations. Proving himself and his tactics better than Guilliman, who he felt looked down on him, was his main driving goal. the normal mode of operaton for the Alpha Legion was to attack from many directions. Alpharius would strike bargains for allies and encourage treacher within an enemies ranks. He would also develope spies and informants within a populace. This could be how he was able to win over some of the client worlds and convince them to join in his attack of the Mezzan (or throw them into enough turmoil, that if they did not join him that they could not mount a concerted defense). The Mezzan would have proven more resistant than most to these incursions. The Mezzan were for the most part inuslar and secretive towards outsiders, much like Alpharius himself. While it is true that they had trade and other interactions with many worlds, these cultures were also held at arms length. On the worlds where they had dealings the Mezzan would live in compounds or small communities consisting of their own people rather than out among the indigenous populace. They absorbed and studied the culture with which they interacted, but gave little information about their own culture away. The Mezzan would also take no hostile action against the population of a client world. This does not mean that they would not sanction a world. As an example, on one world violence against mezzan civilians and general anti Mezzan sentiment was running high within the local population. In some cases, the local police turned a blind eye to the crimes (there were sympathizers on the force). The Mezzan simply left....well simply does not really describe it. With their departure the Mezzan took most of their technology with them. Several of the major power plants were on long term lease to the planetary government. The land on which the Mezzan had built their compound had been the colateral. The Mezzan informed the government that they were in breach of contract for not providing adequate protection for their people. As such the lease was broken. The power plants and many other systems on similar loans left with the Mezzan. Of course this is a simplified version of the events, but you can probably imagine what losing 10 power plants off of a national grid would do to a country. The Mezzan always proported to be pacifists and those of their people who had been killed never fought back against their attackers. Still the locals blame them for the deaths and destruction that occured in the years after their departure.
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Post by CELS on Oct 1, 2004 15:52:17 GMT -5
Perhaps, Destecado, seeing as how you've written so much already... perhaps you would like to add some of what you've written to an updated version of my summary? The Mezzan are your creation, after all, and you seem to have a lot of ideas for them
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Post by Kage2020 on Oct 2, 2004 8:09:00 GMT -5
Well, care should be taken with the "Mezzan", one of the main reasons that I've never responded to the PM that was sent to me on this topic... Edit... Due to the now deleted, erm, 'comments' by CELS I thought that I would extrapolate based upon the information posted here. Seems that the original PM by Destecado was deleted when clearing out the Inbox. Based on the original information I posted about the Mezzan (the culture in question), they did not seek to rule worlds directly. The original problem that I had with the Mezzan, I shall state from the outright, was that it came from a time when there was rather a lot of "power-housing" going on in the Anargo sector. I'm talking from hazy memory now, but regardless... Let us now consider them in context, rather than their automatic adoption. The Mezzan were attempting to stabilize their borders and ensure peace in their own systems by creating strong allies that would be favorable towards them. A good and solid point, and one of the reasons of the concepts of the original 'micro-empires' described elsewhere. Indeed, I would personally argue that the subsectors are predicated upon this requirement in the Age of Strife... that there might have been a linking feature in the Anargo Sector is a potential, but one that will be discussed... It was hoped that by sharing their prosperity, they could not only eliminate hunger and disease, but the chaos and violence that they caused... That was what got my goat! The horrendously benign nature. Gets the 'ole hackles rising since it automatically makes my suspicious when people do things for the "greater good"! Food and medicine were not the only things that the Mezzan brought to client worlds. They brought education and technology. We must also remember that some of the assumptions made with regards to the Age of Strife are flawed, i.e. large scale technological decline due to some gross application of the term "Iron Man conflict" or whatever. If we are to do such a thing then we need to more readily define the Iron Men (and no, no nRobots please!). Others viewed the technology as a means by which the Mezzan were creating new markets for their goods... Given the 'broad brush-strokes' of the 40k universe, why were the people of Mezzan able to maintain their technology? Some of the systems that were previously within its boundaries are now open to warp travel. And that is where I like the concept. Imagine readily addressing the concept of "Imperium might" against a developed culture? How would they interact given the more tempered approach to "alien relations" represented in the Tau? Amusingly, perhaps such a 'power house race' might give a reason why the Imperium is more tempered in the future, or at least one reason amongst many... This is what the Heart of Anargo and Sargassos Gulf were, for me, designed to do... created an integrated RPG and wargame adventure with defined ramifications based upon the 'generalised' 'fluff'. It could possibly have floating (ant-grav) cities that house its enormous population. The cities may have originally been built by the Mezzan, but taken over by the Imperium. This is going to be a bit of a bummer when the AG fails, if you believe the canonical universe where such systems are hard to maintain. (Obviously lost the instruction manual for the STC... ) The Adeptus Mechanicus wanted to negotiate with them. The Machine inteligences that were part of the Mezzan population were like "living" embodiements of the machine god. There is very hazy ground on this subject... see STC origins thread in General. More so especially with regards to the 'politics' of a break-down in negotiations (e.g. it buys into a limited approach to the adeptus mechanicus as "Adeptus Me-Can't-icus"). The conflict, however, reads as quite interesting... Erm, 'quite' doesn't really suit but still... I'm going to stop there...
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Post by CELS on Oct 4, 2004 9:35:37 GMT -5
'Comments' by CELS? Anyway, if the 'benign' nature of the Mezzan is what gets your goat, Kage, then there really should be no problem. Destecado wrote: "If nothing else the Mezzan were generous to a fault the client worlds, but they did expect some considerations in return. It revovles pretty much around the idea of nation building. The Mezzan were attempting to stabilize their borders and ensure peace in their own systems by creating strong allies that would be favorable towards them. " To me, this sounds very much like many countries do today. If I'm not mistaken, the United States of America are known to 'help' many countries like this. Israel being a popular example, of course. Well, not necessarily stabilizing their borders, but creating allies and opening up for new resources. The USA has brought a lot of technology to the rest of the world, but I would hardly argue that their nature is 'benign' Perhaps it's just a matter of wording.
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Post by Destecado on Oct 4, 2004 15:52:12 GMT -5
Perhaps, Destecado, seeing as how you've written so much already... perhaps you would like to add some of what you've written to an updated version of my summary? The Mezzan are your creation, after all, and you seem to have a lot of ideas for them This is pretty much what I had been trying to do in the Sargassos Subsector before the Great Crusade thread. Unfortunately I had shelved the concept when I really didn't get any feedback. I'll try to post a more thorough exploration of the Mezzan. The original problem that I had with the Mezzan, I shall state from the outright, was that it came from a time when there was rather a lot of "power-housing" going on in the Anargo sector. I'm talking from hazy memory now, but regardless... Let us now consider them in context, rather than their automatic adoption. The Mezzan were not meant to be used as a power gaming race. they were more to add texture and background to the fluff of the Sargassos Subsector. That was what got my goat! The horrendously benign nature. Gets the 'ole hackles rising since it automatically makes my suspicious when people do things for the "greater good"! As CELS has mentioned, it was probably in the original way that it was written. Though the Mezzan are normally pacifistic, they are hardly benign. They are not altruistic, but instead act through enlightened self interest. (See Below)We must also remember that some of the assumptions made with regards to the Age of Strife are flawed, i.e. large scale technological decline due to some gross application of the term "Iron Man conflict" or whatever. If we are to do such a thing then we need to more readily define the Iron Men (and no, no nRobots please!). The Mezzan did not decline due to the Iron Men. In fact, part of their population would be made up of Iron Men or at least machine intelligences. The original Mezzan culture began as a social experiment. It was an attempt to prove that humans, whether organic or inorganic, (machine intelligence or human intelligence) could live together in harmony and build a thriving culture. They came to the Anargo Sector because it was off the beaten track. This allowed for control of the experiment. It was hoped that the community that was created would act as a template for improving relations between humans and machines. It is sort of like the concept behind the bio dome. Trying to prove that reclamation technologies and other applications work in a small controled enviroment and then using the data gathered to work on a macro scale. Given the 'broad brush-strokes' of the 40k universe, why were the people of Mezzan able to maintain their technology? I personally see the Anargo Sector as being off the beaten track...or at least the Sargassos Subsector. this is part of the reason it was chosen. The scientists wanted to limit the amount of outside contamination that might occur in their social experiment and there by reduce the variables to be able to better analize the interactions between humans and machine intelligences. This is not to say that there was not conflict. I'm sure that during the age of strife there were incursions into their area of control. There was also internal strife within the culture. The major focus though was to reach a solution through another method other than violence. The original colony had sufficient weapons to protect itself, but nothing beyond that. Part of the reason was the fear that putting such weapons so close at hand would invariably lead to someone using them if the culture were to break down. Also such weapon systems were expensive. Funding for the initial fazes of the project was tight. The scientists that were coordinating the experiment were not only betting their reputations. Several would be bankrupted if this project did not yield results. Another part of the control was secrecy. Those that had originally agreed to be subjects of the experiment would be kept in the dark of what was occuring in the world outside. the world outside would only know about how the project was proceeding based on the bi annual report from the division heads overseeing the experiment. Eventually, the resources supporting the experiment would have dried up as the Age of Strife worsened. The experiment would then have been forced to stand on its own two feet. I view this stage of the Mezzan's developement to be similar to the United States at the end of the Revolutionary war. Of course, the Mezzan did not fight a war for independance, but they were cut off from their major supplier of resources (Britian) and would have to prove if their "bold experiment could work. Like the young United States, the Mezzan would perhaps have gone seeking other allies. Of course since their military was still weak, they would have to be careful in the manner in which these "allies" were approached. This might have been the initial stages of the client world program. In order to maintain the intergrity of the experiment and to also not let on how weak they really were, the Mezzan would have kept all contact with these other societies down to a minimum. As the Mezzan culture expanded, the military still remained small. This was due in part to the outgrowth of the pascifistic movement among the population. Another reason was the high cost of upkeep. Contrary to what the Imperium would like people to beleive, arming and equipping troops and fielding tanks and other vehicles is expensive. Like the rest of their government and industry, the military was made up of specialists. This small highly trained and well equipped force was able to fend off incursions of Mezzan worlds. And that is where I like the concept. Imagine readily addressing the concept of "Imperium might" against a developed culture? How would they interact given the more tempered approach to "alien relations" represented in the Tau? Amusingly, perhaps such a 'power house race' might give a reason why the Imperium is more tempered in the future, or at least one reason amongst many... One of the reasons that I see the original capitol of the Sector being located within the Sargassos Subsector is because of the high level of technology that the mezzan possesed and because on several worlds it still exists. If the Anargo Sector was a backwater, the Imperium would probably want to place the Capital on one of the more higher tech worlds. There is also the possibly of a continued threat from the Mezzan. Many of the listening posts and other military bases that exist within the subsector date back to the time of the War with the Mezzan. The Imperium would have known that they did not get all of their worlds (that some might still exist within the Sargasso Gulf). They might therefore have had a large military force deployed throughout the Subsector in order to prepare for any retalitory strikes. The Mezzan however were glad to have the war over. No retalitory fleet emerged from the Gulf. Eventually it would have been too expensive to maintain such forces in the sector with no apparent threat. Many of the forces might have been shifted to fight the orks or IG units may have been disbanded back into the local population. Most of the military hardware would have been moved as well or it may have been set up in depots within the Sargassos Subsector (in case the IG units needed to be mobilised to fight against some threat from the Gulf). The war with the Mezzan cost the Imperium dearly in men and materials. The Mezzan might still serve as boogy men within the Subsector. Perhaps rumors abound that the Mezzan turned the Alpha Marines to chaos or that Mezzan mercenaries support Alpha Marine incursions throughout the Sector. Granted many of these concepts would be fantastic, but it is possibly the kind of disinformation and lies that the Imperium would spread, just in case the Mezzan did come out of the gulf. This is going to be a bit of a bummer when the AG fails, if you believe the canonical universe where such systems are hard to maintain. (Obviously lost the instruction manual for the STC...) They do not have to have floating cities per se. It is just what that tech level allows. I was actually toying with an interesting for 28,43,48 - K-V - A76AAAC-D Hi Wa 412 Im 88D. This too is a water world. Which again has a high level of technology. It exports industrial christal and has a tech level that allows holo/data storage. I was thinking about having the water have a high level of certain chemicals that might accumulate into large chrystals. If you have ever made rock candy or whatched salt brine form you'll get an idea of what i'm referring to. the cities might be built on huge crystal "icebergs". The "seeders" are adept at getting the crystals to grow in certain patterns. This allows them to make industrial crystals or grow new sections onto existing cities. The world might be a major supplier of crystals used in lasguns throughout the Sector. Something similar.....ok not crystal cities on two planets within the subsector, but something other than anti-grav cities can be worked out.
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Post by Kage2020 on Oct 16, 2004 19:21:25 GMT -5
The Mezzan were not meant to be used as a power gaming race. My bad... It wasn't quite what I was saying, merely that at the time they were introduced there were rather a lot of 'power races' being introduced and the Mezzan kind of got bundled in with them. I'm guessing that it was a reference to the context of their introduction, rather than the specifics of their introduction.
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