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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 6:55:20 GMT -5
Many references have been made tothis world and its major contributions to Meksum so i thought I'd better start a thread and let you know what its about. It will require substantial input from Zholud but thats for the future when I actually get round to doing it.
Anexal Prime is the main world of the Anexus star system, all the planets in this system are owned by mega corporations who until the imperium arrived were sovereign nations. After inclusion into the the Imperium these corporation merged into the ultra corporatin Known as the ATC. Each corporation had a speciality in certain feilds and are still considered to be experts in said fields, these include Mining, medical research, heavy industry and parts manufature, Colonisation, Banking and Military technologies.
They have maintained these skills and generously shared them with the imperium, seking to improve the whole sector in an effort to show their comitment to humanity. The people of this system have an excelent quality of life, the principles on which the worlds were foundeed have enduered to this day, equality and justice for all, charity for those less fortunate than themselves, the desire to make meaningful contributions to the greater good. Cartel subjects, while obviously imperial citizens, revere the founders as saints and try to live up to there examples of goodness.
This has not always been the case quite obvoiusly, given the nature of the human race but they have always managed to come through such dark times, scuffed and bruised but better people for the experience. There have been 3 main conflicts, the first were the trade wars when corporation faced corporation in open combat, the second became more of a cold war of corperate sabatage pitting covert agents against each other in an attempt to destroy the competition, the third and most terrible was with the imperium when they were first rediscoverd. This was caused by Mechanicus treachary and alpha legion brutality only halted by the skilled and measured intervention of the ultramarines and the nascent inquisition.
Anexus has since then built itself into a truely impressive power, choosing not to challenge Meksum for dominance and wholeheartedly supporting the imperial endeavours in the sector. It main efforts are geared towards providing enough raw materials as possible for continued imperial success and will strip mine every planet they can to provide these raw materials.
They do have a darker side if it could be called such, long before the inquisition was created, Anexal covert agents were plying there trade with the most advanced technology they could. And today they still do, though there focus of attention is trained like a laser beam on the Adeptus Mechanicus who they consider an abomanation, who deliberatly hold back humanity and manipulate the imperium for their own twisted ideals. They are now called Aurora agents, there mission is to expose the treason of the Mechanicus and bring it crashing down. The senior partners of the cartels while being aware of their existence have no knoledge of who they are, where they are or what they actually do. The agency has operatives every where including, or at least suspected, the inquisition itself.
Right thats enough for now, comment are welcome, but remeber this is just the basic ideas, I haven't started writing any thing as yet. But those are the fundamentals.
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Post by Zholud on Dec 21, 2004 8:10:46 GMT -5
At the moment I’m not too fond of this idea. While a whitey-pussy company, that treats everyone well and is headed by homophiles is good refreshing, stressing that in the dark future there in not only war, I don’t like to apply this rule everywhere. Aurora agents – I’ve heard about them somewhere else, but please read great CELS essay on AM and not works of some BL authors according to whom all tech-priest are irreversibly stupid. So, while ‘cartel planet’ sounds good, but voluntary self-dismissal from policy, intrigue and backstabbing… at least it makes universe less spicy…
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 8:19:05 GMT -5
So you like your spice eh, well what if I said they were supported by the Inquisition, not all of it but those radical elements we hear so much about. So not in your sub sector eh, fair enough, you don't mind if they have worlds in your sub sector though do you. Like Proculus, Koralla and Laguna I never once said they were stupid Zholud, just Evil Besides the policy of the agency would appeal to quite a few of the Mechanicus I would think, the development of xenos technology for one.
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Post by Zholud on Dec 21, 2004 11:10:54 GMT -5
So you like your spice eh, well what if I said they were supported by the Inquisition, I just point out that they are not sinister enough after all we need good intrigue, kidnapping, aliens autopsy made w/o =][= or A.M. supervision, plans to overthrow Ecclesiarchy or at least steal some artefact. So not in your sub sector eh, fair enough, you don't mind if they have worlds in your sub sector though do you. Like Proculus, Koralla and Laguna I mean that we (ASP) need different worlds, either linked together or not. In all sub-sectors. I never once said they were stupid Zholud, just Evil Question is – is tech owned by companies clearly inferior to owned by Mechanicus? If yes then fine…
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 11:52:06 GMT -5
No not inferior, they had their tech since the GAoT and maintained it, they also maintained scientific research and advancement so they are on a par with the AM and probably a little more advanced in some areas, eg were the AM have ceased looking or at least ceased developing such as AI. I do not wish to compare them with other races but they have all the developments that the tau have(which lets be honest aren't that great) but also all the things humanity has developed. They do not have the vast resources that are available to the AM however. You think so eh, well they fund the aurora agency, which will use any means to further there goals, like for instance starting a heretical cult on a forge world, fanning the flames, then pulling out and informing the inquisition about whats happening, then laughing as place is bombed from orbit, just because they are whitey pussies does not mean they can't be ruthless if they have to be.
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Post by Zholud on Dec 21, 2004 13:24:54 GMT -5
No not inferior, they had their tech since the GAoT and maintained it, they also maintained scientific research and advancement so they are on a par with the AM and probably a little more advanced in some areas, eg were the AM have ceased looking or at least ceased developing such as AI I think it is a little bit too much. They are like enlightened few in sea of illiterate. I guess they are too much for a sector. Not for the ASP in particular, but generally within 40k-verse. It is pushing too far I guess. But maybe others persuade me that I’m wrong.
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Post by Philip on Dec 21, 2004 14:19:02 GMT -5
Hi Dazo, For some reason when reading about Anexus I kept thinking of Tzeentch… Anyway, if they have GAoT tech then they are very powerful, and if the Anexus’ understand said tech they are as powerful as the Adeptus Mechanicus - which is quite something. Also in keeping and maintaining GAoT tech they must have working STC, therefore it would follow that the Ad Mec would now also have the STC… How did they avoid the trouble caused by the rise of the Psykers during the age of strife (and the resulting conflict with Daemon kind and corruption)? Back to Tzeentch, perhaps they didn’t escape it? Perhaps they are rotten at the core? Perhaps they are but a pawn of Chaos…
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 14:57:13 GMT -5
I think I lack the linguistic leger domain that would be required to sway you Zholud I simply believe that it has to happen, you can't have what GW would want in terms of human development ie they all become nihilistic, brutal and lacking the ability to change, the imperium would be dead in a century, there has to be hope, and there has to be a place where this survives, i'm not seeking to change anargo or the imperium mearly offering a version of something that must be out there somewhere and which co-exists with the imperium peacefully. By the way they have no military ships, they scuppered the lot of them rather than hand them over to the AM, they also destroyed every working STC had in front of the horrified reps of the AM, hows that for cruelty I don't know, did it happen on every world in the galaxy, perhaps they developed drugs that suppressed the psykers abilities, perhaps they just killed them all. The simple fact is that ignorance helps chaos far more, if people knew about it, they would know what to look for and take steps to counter it, also chaos very much depends on a persons lack of self knoledge and fears, if you have an enlightened(not like the eldar) people who are happy what the hell would chaos have to offer them. Ok so maybe not immune but far harder to turn to the dark side, but I aknoledge this would be a perfect tzeenchian scenario, the only thing stopping it is me saying NO not a very good reason I grant you but there you go.
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Post by Philip on Dec 21, 2004 17:00:05 GMT -5
I don't know, did it happen on every world in the galaxy, perhaps they developed drugs that suppressed the psykers abilities, perhaps they just killed them all. Pretty much every world I think Drugs that suppressed Psyker abilities? That would solve 40K humanity’s problems, and put an end to the power of Chaos. Just killed them all? Doesn’t sound very friendly, seems they aren’t as tolorant as they make out…. The simple fact is that ignorance helps chaos far more, if people knew about it, they would know what to look for and take steps to counter it.. Or sign up pronto. also chaos very much depends on a persons lack of self knoledge and fears, if you have an enlightened(not like the eldar) people who are happy what the hell would chaos have to offer them. What would Tzeentch the ‘God of all knowledge’ have to offer an advanced society such as this that obviously craves knowledge and actively pursues it? Isn’t one of the failing of such societies the fact that they think ‘can we’ instead of ‘should we’? Tzeentch could offer them their wildest dreams and make them reality; Chaos also works though seduction as well as fear
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 17:27:20 GMT -5
I suppose so, but if they knew about tzeentch(and they would) would that not mean they would be on guard against its machinations, probably not I here you cry, well I can't really argue with that, but in the Imperium where you have so many people who are a law unto themselves its much easier to turn a governor bad, you then get the trickle down effect, as no one bar an inquisitor is going to say "hang on a minute you can't do that" and if there isn't an inquisitor then you have serious problems. Thats why GW deliberatly go for the despotic regimes, they work the way they want them to and provide a handy excuse as why chaos hasn't been stamped out yet. Hmmf if I was an inquisitor things'd be different Some would, but most would take one look at what actually happens and say not on your bloody nellie What is with people trying to put words in my mouth first zholud said I called the AM stupid now your saying I said the Cartels were tolerant
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Post by Philip on Dec 21, 2004 17:42:14 GMT -5
I suppose so, but if they knew about tzeentch(and they would) would that not mean they would be on guard against its machinations, Only if they had encountered chaos before and had a problem with Psykers in the first place as you can’t guard against what you don’t know about. Then yes they could be on their guard, but it would imply they had problems during the age of strife like everyone else. Some would, but most would take one look at what actually happens and say not on your bloody nellie The only way they could know what actually happens is if they fell during the age of strife like everyone else, otherwise they wouldn’t have a clue about Tzeentch. What is with people trying to put words in my mouth first zholud said I called the AM stupid now your saying I said the Cartels were tolerant Opps, I apologise, all that talk of hope threw me for a sec...
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Post by Destecado on Dec 21, 2004 17:58:45 GMT -5
It is an interesting proposal, but I'm not sure if it fits as a main stream world in the current Anargo Sector. Daz, you may want to take a look at the concept of the Mezzan (information available in the following threads). kagemat.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=OtherSub&action=display&thread=1091708511kagemat.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=OtherSub&action=display&thread=1096294737They embody many of the beliefs that you have espoused as well as have a high degree of technology. Unfortunately, they were all but wiped out by the arrival of the Imperium during the Great Crusade. One of the concepts that I had been working on was the existance of Client Worlds within the Sargassos Subsector. It could be that the world you are trying to create could perhaps be one of the few client worlds thatexisted outside of the subsector prior to the arrival of the Great Crusade...this is of course with Zholud's approval.
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 18:04:52 GMT -5
I don't think zholud is to keen on the idea, I suspect that will be the case for most, Cels has already suggested I move the world anyway as i've got to many worlds in Meksum, how would you feel if I suggested I move it to sargassos...wha wait a minute don't run*sounds of destecado's feet patter of into the distance* It might be better if I just move it out of the sector and into another one.
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Post by Destecado on Dec 21, 2004 18:09:49 GMT -5
It could be a remnant of the worlds captured during the great crusade. The history that I had been working on for the Alpha Legion assualt had them make planet fall on one of the Mezzan worlds with the aid of the Hesperides (people of Hesperus). Anexus...sorry, but I'm not too fond of the name, may have been a client world that was occupied early during the conflict and therefore weathered the engagement pretty much intact.
As to placement in the Sargassos Subsector....this would be fine with me. we just need to find the proper UWP listing...did you have one in mind? I think this one might fit.
30,43,48 - M-V - AA76AC7-G N Hi 103 Im 59B
Stellar Coordinates: 30 (x) 43 (y) 48 (z) Star Type: (M-V) Red Dwarf Starport: (A) Class A – Tech Level 10 Planetary Diameter: (A) Large (min) 15,200 km (max) 16,799 km Atmosphere: (7) Standard Tainted (min) 0.71 atm (max) 1.49 atm Hydrographics: (6) Wet World (55% - 64% water) Population: (A) High (tens of billions) 10,000,000,000 – 99,999,999,999 Law Level: (C) Extreme (unrestricted invasion of privacy) Government: (7) Balkanization
Planetary Tech Level: (G) High Stellar (global terraforming) Bases: (N) Naval Trade Codes: (Hi) High Population
Population Multiplier: 1 Planetoid Belts: (0) None Gas Giants: 3
Allegiance: Imperial
Life Value: (5) Macroscopic Life Resource Value: (9) Rich Exports: (B) Bioengineering
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Post by Dazo on Dec 21, 2004 18:27:42 GMT -5
Yeah it would, it has a little more water than I would have liked, but that is balanced by it being a larger world. If we could change the star, as I said i'm sick of MV stars, and the tech level would have to be lowered, and i'm not to sure about a naval base, but the cartels do own a sizeable fleet....
No asteroid belts but there are 3 gas giants yes it might just work
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