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Post by Insidious Threat on Sept 2, 2004 4:30:35 GMT -5
Hello, I was just wondering if I could have this world - 59,47,50 - Lost Planet (terrestrial) - because I fel that I have a good idea for this (it involves Genestealers... but limited numbers and I will be getting it all checked by the creator of the sub-sector).
Just wanted to know if this world was still avaliable and if so, then where I should post the details and background that I have created for it...
Thanks in advance sokahr
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Post by zholud on Sept 2, 2004 5:44:23 GMT -5
Hello, I was just wondering if I could have this world - 59,47,50 - Lost Planet (terrestrial) Just wanted to know if this world was still avaliable and if so, then where I should post the details and background that I have created for it... Yep, seems it is available. However, you have to understand several bits before you’ve started making fluff. - Planet is lost, i.e. w/o star to orbit around. So temperature is close to absolute zero, unless you have some ideas how to heat it up.
- The Hiveworld sub-sector doesn’t mean that every planet has a hive or two here… it just have slightly more Hiveworlds and trade-related worlds than other subs. Moreover, all Hiveworlds in the sub are owned… you can always try to persuade me adding one more
- You’ll have to create human world, not just say here are people… ops, here were people. You will create culture for them, describe ‘peculiarities’, etc.
- Your primary goal is creation of fluff to the Genestealer cult, not just fitting a few sentences to the rules.
uh, and welcome to the Anargo Sector Project.
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Post by Insidious Threat on Sept 2, 2004 7:02:40 GMT -5
Thank you very much. I have a basic concept of the pre-cult situation. Basically, i imagine the world as an exhausted, mine, which was rich in rare elements due to being cast off by it's dying sun (the impacts from asteroids and fragments of planets much closer to the sun that is orbited millions of years ago accreting on it's barren surface, providing a rich layer of metals and ores).
It is now exhausted, but it's remote location and nigh-untrackable presence makes it a perfect Adeptus Mechanicus weapons testing station. I am currently working on a brief history, but am gonig into a lot more depth about the lives of the Techno-Magi, Slaves (who are now in a state of unrest due to a new religious movement which has not yet been identified), and the Skitarii.
I also imagine there to be a singular city, with some of the old mines being convetrted to make-shift habitation quarter for the slaves, as they will not need that many amenities, and the mines are still kept pumped with oxygen by ancient lifesupport devices. These three mine systems form the 'Slave' towns, where the Skitarii enforce the law and the slaves spend any time they are not working practicing the cuastoms that they have accumulated over centuries of isolation and servitude.
This is of course, a very basic over view, but i do like the idea of a research/testing facility on a rogue planet, as I beleive tat this would stop it from coming to the attention of too many individuals/forces within the sector. I have a peice of fiction that will detail the events leading to the uprising of the cult, but at the moment i am construct the 'pre-insurgence' details...
i hope that you like what you see so far!
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Post by Dazo on Sept 4, 2004 10:19:22 GMT -5
Whet is their energy source. Do they have frequent contact with others, are supplies shipped in for them. cast of by its dying sun, mmm I don't know about that, It was more likely disturbed by a rogue gas giant or a black hole approaching the system than a dying star. It could have been, but then everything else in the system would also have scattered. But wait, there are quite a few lost planets in Meksum, could they all be the remnants of that dead star...interesting...well its your descision to make
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Post by Insidious Threat on Sept 4, 2004 13:55:14 GMT -5
The following is a geographical and historical view of the planet (not the inhabitants) as I see it...
In it's earlier, star bound life, Desatograd (as the facility world is known) was one of the other most planets in a solar system composed of a few small, rocky worlds. Even then, roughly 13 million years ago, it was a barren and lifeless world, though it was rich in minerals and ores collected from the accretion disk billions of years previous to it's current state.
When it's star finally ceased to shine, going out with a pitiful release of it's corona, a blast that atomised the inner most three worlds (but which was small and unnoticed on a galactic scale of stellar explosions), the motoin of the planet, lacking the balancing force of gravity that the sun used to provide, threw it into a gentle arc that left it drifting out of the system, on the path that it has been following for the last 13 million years or so.
The planet still possesses a molten core, although this makes little difference on the surface apart from the occasional tectonic shift and the three active volcanoes on the norther dust plains surrounding the Ferrite deserts that make up the northern pole.
The main feature of the planet is it's considerable surface resources. Although it's crust is made up of base minerals that are not really worth mining in teir own right, as they are abundant in almost all places in the galaxy, the remarkable exit that Desatograd had from the system has allowed it to accumulate the mineral wealth of millions of small meteroids and asteroids, all of which impacted without resistance, due to the lack of any atmosphere. This, combined with the remote and virtually undetectable location, has made it perfect for the Desatograd Testing Facility, an Adeptus Mechanicus base that is tasked with testing suspect STC data and dangerous weapons, so that they may inform the rest of the Cult Mechanicus as to the reliability and authenticity of their technological purity.
Thus ends the basic overview of the world... I will be typing some recent history, from the formation of the base in M34 to the recent 'Bio-Contaminant Crisis of M41.998
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Post by Dazo on Dec 11, 2004 13:08:29 GMT -5
So how you getting on with this sidious, have you given any thought to power generation, due to its unique status as rogue it would be hard to get to, meaning any supplies brought in would have to last. Also as its position is never the same how do ships find it, it must be moving faster than any imperial warship by now so how do you get to it.
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Post by Insidious Threat on Dec 15, 2004 5:41:56 GMT -5
Ah, sorry for being AWOL, a certain species of canine aliens has been taking up my time . Well I have give many thoughts to power generation, but I fee lthat the best one is this: STC Geo-Thermal Instigator (DAoT Artefact) This device is integral to a continent sized portion of the planet, which is seeded with the shattered remains of what looks like a pre-Imperial colony, obviously an outpost for exploration as thsi world has been rogue for millions of not billions of years. The device itself is impenetrable, but the control interface is of a design understood by the Adepts of the Cult Mechanicus, and so they have been able to reinstate some control over it, although it is pretty much considered to be operating with a will of it;s own most of the time, without any recourse to control from those on the surface of the planet. The purpose of the device is to aggravate the molecules of what was once the liquid mantle of the planet, promoting a partial reutrn to a geologically active state. This is done in such a way that the planet has a magnetic field roughly equal to that of Mars (so radiation exposure on the surface will still kkill you in minutes), but this is merely a side effect. The actual purpose of the device is to stimulate motion and heat within the core, providing a Geothermal energy source. Now one of the practical problems with such a edevice is the huge amount of energy that is needed to fire up such a reaction, and the exact science that is needed to do so without blowing up the planet. Neither of these things is known, but what is known is that the Device seems to be self perpetuating. It draws in energy from the motion of the mantle and core, through geothermal Power Plants across the surface of the planet, during the centuries of relative stability that the process enjoys. But eventually, the power applied to the mantle wanes, and the geological death that the planet experienced so long ago starts to set in. it is then that the energy gathered within the device is released, starting another cycle. The problem is that the device, like all things, is not 100% effecient, and the effect that it is having on the planet is slowly getting less and less profound. Although there is more than enough power supplied to fuel the AdMech research post for another few millenia, they know that they will have to find an alternate power generation method, or a means to resupply the device to put it back to it's original status. Note that this is a de veloping idea, and is only meant to be there as a reason the have a research base on a dead, lifeless and totally uninteresting world . I feel that putting this as the reason that the AdMech went there, but also as the reason why they suirvive adds a little irnoy to the atmosphere, but i know that I need to do alot more research into how such a device coudl work . I am glad of critique though. Sokahr
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Post by CELS on Dec 15, 2004 12:04:12 GMT -5
One thing I have a problem with is that this artefact is impenetrable. For it to be impenetrable it would have to be a fortress like the mountain citadel of Jericho (destroyed by Ordinatus Mars). And why would they build this artefact like a fortress? Maybe it would be better if the tech-priests could learn little without turning it off and disassembling it, yet they were not sure if the fragile artefact would survive the process. Maybe it could be extremely dangerous to turn off the artefact, as it would result in the reaction getting out of control. Now... why else would the Adeptus Mechanicus have a research here? Well, eventhough I hate to just ignore people's own ideas in favour of my own alternatives, I'll give you a few ideas... [/li][li] The world once had a sizeable Spirian colony, which the AM is keen to investigate. [/li][li] The lost planet was actually thrown out of course when several of the seven fragments in the Heart of the Anargo sector burst back into the Matterium. It contains several clues concerning the Seven Artefacts created by the Old Ones. For more information, go here kagemat.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=OtherRaces&thread=1072570067&action=display&start=60[/li][li] The planet has a lot of exotic materials worth researching. Maybe it has some of the stuff used to build the Cadian pylons?
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Post by Insidious Threat on Dec 15, 2004 16:53:23 GMT -5
I like those suggestions... to be honest the suggestion that I made about impenetrability was just hand waving cos i really could not think of anything to put down that would make sense, but looking through your source material, i would say that the first option is intriguing, but that I do like the whole 'Galatic Consequences' thing that the second option has... The thrid option I see as more of a legitimate measure to make sure thateither of the other investigation reasons are not frowned upon by the AdMech at large.... As to the argument for a device that is able to be taken apart, but the AdMech will not because tey do not know how to put it back together/the effect tat such an action would have, is an excellent idea. In this case, i must definitely say that putting your own ideas forth has realy allowed the pot of ideas to boil over here . TY Sokahr
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Post by Sojourner on Dec 17, 2004 10:13:27 GMT -5
I really like the geothermal 'thingy' idea. Very interesting.
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Post by Insidious Threat on Dec 19, 2004 16:24:45 GMT -5
Okies I have a new suggestion for the Geothermal Sustenance and Power-Plant Unit (GSaPP). It is stil Dark Age technology, but it seems that it used to actually have an efect on the whole ecosystem of the planet, literally maintaining a whole bio-sphere over the world. At some point, possibly during the Age of Strife itself, the controls to this unit were damaged, and the orbital network was destroyed, stripping the planet of this artificial control and leaving it to release it's atmosphere into the cold of the void once more. All that was left was the Crust lattice, a part of the machine that maintained the core temperature of the planet using complex EM pulses to move chrages through the mantle, thus creating warm convection currents in the boling mass of rock. Thus, even though the planet was once again ecologically a lifeless rock, it was still very much geologically alive. The controls that remain are situated just above the equator, on the ridge of what would have once been a large ocean according to Explorator teams. In the frigid and barely recogniseable remains of what must have once been a city, the control centre, several kilometers under the ground, has persevered. Although it took months, and a full battalion of Praetorian Battle Servitors to force entry past the still active defence grid, the Mechanicus pressed on with the hopes of finding a fully working STC. They did not find such a blessed item, but they did find many examples of technology that hey had never come across before, that still had some semblance of the blessings of the machine god. Thus it was decreed that a permament garrison would be set up, so that the controls of this place could be decyphered, and so that they could figure out how the geology of the planet was so much like many life-bearing planets despite being dead in all other respects, and having no real reason to maintain it's own geological life. The research post has been present for the last 234 years, ad they have still not figured out how the device works, although they have learned that it doubles up to provide tremendous electrical power, and the AdMech have been quick to capitalise on thsi and bring many more devices and bases onto the surface to Explore this phenomenon. (This is the basic synopsis so far, the Stealers will be coming in later... chartered merchant vessels and all that . But suffice to say, this device is the reason why the admech are here, if it is acceptable).
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Post by CELS on Dec 19, 2004 18:27:28 GMT -5
Hm... 1) Why would anyone spend such an extreme amount of resources on terraforming a rogue planet? Even if they had the ability to do this in the Age of Technology, though I doubt it, I don't see why they would bother. Even if the world has an extreme wealth in minerals, crystals and what not, it still wouldn't make sense, because they don't need a terraformed surface to mine it. Actually, it would be stupid to heat up the planet core, because it would be easier to mine the minerals if it was cold. So... why bother? 2) Just to repeat myself; I don't think it would be possible to terraform this planet. 3) The controls being acidentally damaged puts silly images in my head of some idiot dropping his cup of tea on the master controls... In other words, I don't quite understand why or how the controls would be damaged. Sorry, I just don't understand how this idea would work, and though I appreciate that it would be cool to have such a device, I'm not really fond of the idea as it stands right now. There is potential for improvement
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Post by Sojourner on Dec 20, 2004 6:45:15 GMT -5
I'm thinking a Homer Simpson-a-like tech priest in charge here...
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Post by Dazo on Dec 20, 2004 11:25:47 GMT -5
They wouldn't, it just wouldn't be possible, not unless the whole planet was under a force dome. They would tunnel and dig out a good sized habitat though and terraform that, big job but if its the GAoT where talking about then they might well do that. If only to prove to themselves that they could.
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Post by Zholud on Dec 20, 2004 11:27:44 GMT -5
I'm thinking a Homer Simpson-a-like tech priest in charge here... Pardon me, I don't know what Homer Simpson is like. Lucky me Seriously, I guess that it is linked to Simpson family cartoon, but I never ever have seen a single full episode...
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