|
Post by Dazo on Nov 10, 2004 3:28:13 GMT -5
advantages? Its why they have such high winds, no turbulance to slow them down, because of the cold.
Why would they take on a more technically challenging form of mining like that when they can just mine it from the planet along with everything else. This is also a low grav world so getting it into orbit would be easier.
Like what, plasteel and platicrete, those are the only 40k specific materials I know of
I don't understand what you mean by secular
So as long as I say the people who have guns come from worlds where you have to have a gun or they have had a hard life that will be ok. And that having the guns is not indicative of a troubled planet but mearly of their former lives being dangerous before they came to proculus.
That would make them smugglers, and smugglers get shot. You won't get free traders coming here all materials mined get shipped off world, either as tithes or to the main trading worlds of the cartels, ie Anexus, Meksum and Seleca to name but a few. There is nothing left to be sold to someone who just shows up hoping for a cheap deal. And once your contract is up you do not stay, you get moved to a different world if you still want to work for them or you get dropped of on a main world of you choosing to begin your new life with all the money you earned as a miner
|
|
|
Post by CELS on Nov 10, 2004 4:30:02 GMT -5
dictionary.reference.com/search?q=secularI really do recommend www.dictionary.com PS: I have to side with Dazo with the total monopoly of the corporation. If they don't want people on this world that don't work for the corporation, it's very simple for them to avoid it, because other people would have to colonise the planet from scratch if it's a closed party.
|
|
|
Post by Zholud on Nov 15, 2004 10:02:27 GMT -5
advantages? Its why they have such high winds, no turbulance to slow them down, because of the cold. Moon is cold, no turbulence… go and find any winds As for advantages – easier to e.g. collect oxygen if it is fluid, not gas… cryo-electronics is the other thing. Why would they take on a more technically challenging form of mining like that when they can just mine it from the planet along with everything else. This is also a low grav world so getting it into orbit would be easier. OK, no problem, but I just point that there are ice asteroids that seems (we yet to get there to check quite common at Saturn rings, etc… Like what, plasteel and platicrete, those are the only 40k specific materials I know of Adamantium, as well as plasteel generally used in other universes as well… we should made a list of these materials somewhere… So as long as I say the people who have guns come from worlds where you have to have a gun or they have had a hard life that will be ok. They came from different worlds, but they all used to have weapons… don’t you see anything strange in your argument? That would make them smugglers, and smugglers get shot. No problem. I just point that monopolies end-up with monopoly price setting that is above lassies faire equilibrium.
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Nov 15, 2004 11:10:56 GMT -5
Hmmm, yes good point, except the moon is airless so I would be hard pressed to find any winds. Even pluto has an atmosphere for parts of its year an quite substantial, though at its furthest the air does freeze out on to the surface. I asked about that a long time ago, but to be honest there aren't that many 40k specific materials plasticrete plastycryst plasteel adamantium ceramite duranium and thats it I think, I have added a little more to the tithes part about cobalt, but I really don't know how much more I can write. Thats your argument not mine, I never once said every one carries weapons, I think you confusing this world with seleca. And I quote "The possession of weapons is actually discouraged due to the dangers of explosive decompression, though its often the case that many miners do own some form of small arms." Now "many" does not mean "all" and "small arms" does not mean "Mk3 bolters with auxillary grenade launcher" it might mean primitive six shooters or stub pistols but thats it, you know, cheap weapons for personal defense. If you want though I will change "many" to "some" but thats as far as i'm willing to bend And on the religion thing I really don't know what else to say, can you give me somthing specific that you want to see, because i'm very happy with the religious aspect of this world so I don't really know what more I need to say.
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Nov 18, 2004 10:51:18 GMT -5
Ok SR has been updated in the following ways, plasteel has been added to the list of exported materials, guns are only owned by some, and the outer world has its atmosphere frozen solid for most of its year.
|
|
|
Post by Zholud on Nov 20, 2004 10:49:14 GMT -5
Hmmm, yes good point, except the moon is airless so I would be hard pressed to find any winds. Even pluto has an atmosphere for parts of its year an quite substantial, though at its furthest the air does freeze out on to the surface. Exactly. So what you have to do is take our manual, made by Kage (not H&E), and look up how to determine temperature on the basis of distance from sun etc. Get numbers for base temperature, post here and we’ll discuss which gases are still gaseous This was used in Dune as well. I’m yet undecided what is plasteel. Whether it is kind of steel which can be bended, etc, like more plastic things or it is hydrocarbon substances which are as tough as steel. Opinions? And on the religion thing I really don't know what else to say, can you give me somthing specific that you want to see, because i'm very happy with the religious aspect of this world so I don't really know what more I need to say. I guess its fine, so we will post it in done pile Also point me where I should also give my approval? Seleca? P.S. So, how now sets governor – Imperium or company?
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Nov 20, 2004 11:10:46 GMT -5
Well, erm lets try this, Pluto has a base temperature of -220 degrees C, and all of its atmosphere freezes out onto the surface, Khidre seems to be at absolute zero so lets just say that the atmosphere is frozen solid, like you said it would, yes you were right I was wrong now lets just move past that. Are you still ok with the 3 stormy planets being, well, stormy Really, i've never read any of those books, maybe I should. I had always assumed it was just a stronger more flexible version of steel, that was somhow plasticised which would I assume make it more durable and more likely to withstand sudden impacts Thank you, thank you thank you ad infinitum yes please, I am a little stuck with that at the moment The company, have I missed that out on the SR, or is just not very clear
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Dec 9, 2004 7:01:10 GMT -5
So can we call this world finished, please
|
|
|
Post by Zholud on Dec 10, 2004 10:32:58 GMT -5
Well, erm lets try this, Pluto has a base temperature of -220 degrees C, and all of its atmosphere freezes out onto the surface, Khidre seems to be at absolute zero so lets just say that the atmosphere is frozen solid, like you said it would, yes you were right I was wrong now lets just move past that. OK, if you changed that in SR then it’s fine. Are you still ok with the 3 stormy planets being, well, stormy Yes, they are under Rule of cool even if they have to be a little colder. Done with them too. Really, i've never read any of those books, maybe I should. I cannot state that they are really enjoyable read… not books to swallow over the weekend. But they are thought out [mostly] and have a lot of ideas. yes please, I am a little stuck with that at the moment I’m unsure I’m fully back to the ASP, but I’ll look up Seleca… or how is it named now? The company, have I missed that out on the SR, or is just not very clear Say how the Imperium sets its representative on the planet and you generally got my approval.
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Dec 10, 2004 10:43:37 GMT -5
Yes I did that. The star system had to be renamed so there would be no confusion with the origional homeworld now located somewhere in the Castellan DMZ. So that could be anyone, maybe an administratum advisor/representative perhaps, not specifically the governor who could be chosen by the cartels. So long as I have some kind of Imperial presence you will be happy...yes?
|
|
|
Post by Zholud on Dec 10, 2004 14:02:48 GMT -5
So that could be anyone, maybe an administratum advisor/representative perhaps, not specifically the governor who could be chosen by the cartels. So long as I have some kind of Imperial presence you will be happy...yes? Yes… otherwise it’s just hard to say that this world is Imperial one. So, make some stuff on Administratum presence, or reasons for its absence and you’re done with Proculus Alpha
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Dec 10, 2004 16:34:42 GMT -5
Its done hahahahahaha finally my greatest work is completed hahahahaah*arms raised as lightening flashes overhead* ;D ok i've added a bit about the administratum, its not much, but its enough. So...can we you know...move it perhaps...to the...errr...archives...maybe
|
|
|
Post by Zholud on Dec 16, 2004 13:12:43 GMT -5
Here comes my big fat aye to this world I cannot say that I’m entirely pleased by this system, but it is quite fine, thus my sincere congratulations. P.S. Kage, CELS, this is official message on adding the Proculus system to the ASP Archives.
|
|
|
Post by CELS on Dec 16, 2004 13:16:20 GMT -5
Done. Just for us who aren't exactly up to date when it comes to the discussion of all the different worlds in the sector... what are you not pleased with? Edit- Hang on. Dazo, you have to reformat the Proculus Alpha SR, just like I told you to for the other two worlds as well. I trust you know what I mean (hint:gas giants) Oh, and please add glossary, timeline and important locations
|
|
|
Post by Dazo on Dec 16, 2004 13:47:06 GMT -5
THANK YOU Zholud ;D
Yes your right CELS, barring that small detail/details though its about ready to go, so I'll get on that post haste.
|
|