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Post by CELS on Nov 3, 2004 11:50:17 GMT -5
err not really, i'm gonna go with town watch i think, ala Ankh Morpork, and I still think that much of the planet may still be, if not unexplored, then wilderness, remember much of the food grown on Seleca comes from the oceans not the land No need for the police on the oceans, you mean? Some sort of coast guard? Well, yeah, but I just wanted an excuse to make the joke, which I thought was pretty funny ;D And actually, I feel that since the Imperium buys the products from 99% of the population, and supply the population with 99% of what they need, the number of trade centers would be rather low. I imagine that only luxury items would be traded. Refrigerators, entertainment systems, etc. Someone has obviously learned from Max Payne ;D What are the remaining 30%? LoL. Ah, then I misunderstood you. I thought you meant manufacturing centres to build tools, machines and various equipment. Yes, I imagine the food would be processed on Seleca III. But then, I would also call these installations 'food processing installations' or something like that, and not manufacturing bases What does the psychology of the Meksumian population have to do with anything? Farming equipment is exactly what I'm referring to, but that's not all. Why would you want to build up an industry on Seleca III that can supply it with tractors, harvesters and other machines, when it would be much easier to just use the massive industry on Meksum, and use the constant traffic between the two worlds to transport it? Specialisation is the key word. Agri-worlds tend not to have industry. No problem. What's stopping you? Great
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Post by Dazo on Nov 3, 2004 12:37:33 GMT -5
Well , err not really, I mean they would have life guards, do you think I should have coast guards, i'll be honest that never occured to me. Hmmm yes I suppose so, by trade centre I mean high street, I should on reflection have been clearer about that. I don't know about that, but someone should have learned not to try and lift his fridge by himself Stuff Textiles, precious metals/gems, carpentry and sweet sweet liquor Ok, food processing plants it is There's now an industrial world in the system so I suppose they would make them there, in exchange for food Zholud, and the absence of Zholud, would a civilised world still specialize in farming though. The population is rising due to immigration from the old home world, i'm still not sure how i'm gonna do that yet though, to be honest the worlds designation does not concern me that much, agri or civilised, is there not somthing in the middle
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Post by CELS on Nov 3, 2004 16:02:14 GMT -5
For now, Dazo, consider Seleca III a civilised world. Zholud hasn't returned yet, but I'm positive that he will accept this decision, and he will return soon enough anyway. Would a civilised world specialise in farming? That's an odd question. 'Civilised world' is just a description used by the Imperial administration to classify various worlds. A civilised world can be anything from a cardinal world to a garden world. The term only implies that it is a world with a relatively advanced technology and culture, and that it does not fall under any other categories (agri-world, forge world, etc.) In other words, there is no reason why we can't have a civilised world which was formerly an agri-world, but has been re-classified as the world developed further. So just call it a civilised world and be done with it Do you need a coast guard? Well, civilians generally need a police, no matter where they are. Cities, space stations, ocean farms... they need a police. So yeah, since Seleca III's population is spread all over the world, including the seas, there should be a coast guard that can police the oceans. Hope your back gets well soon
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Post by Zholud on Nov 4, 2004 4:03:15 GMT -5
Zholud, and the absence of Zholud, would a civilised world still specialize in farming though. Dazo, I’m back… what’s up? A little riot during my absence? I’ll bring you back to the right way, even if I kill you in the process. First of all, yes, this Agriworld can be civilised world. Moreover, I recall I myself proposed you that some pages above. As for other questions – for faster response post list of your questions… so that I would be able to answer them w/o reading up all new stuff. of course this should done if you want fast answers.
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Post by Dazo on Nov 4, 2004 4:24:13 GMT -5
Ah righty oh then sorry, I'll change it, but i'll make it a recent change so its metioned that it was classed as a agri world for quite some time, that should keep everyone smiling Also I was going to have some form of tourism, its an idea Iwas playing with and I think i've found a way to have it, and explain the refugee transport from the old homeworld, which explains the rapid population rise and the need to redesignate the world. And where have you been? Is the only question I have at the minute Thanks CELS, it only hurts when I move
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Post by Zholud on Nov 4, 2004 14:43:33 GMT -5
And where have you been? Is the only question I have at the minute Oh, working hardly, hot time, election is not only in the US but in Ukraine. Plus grant, plus I finally got the Swords Trilogy by Moorcock, which I bought on e-bay 4 months ago… and a lot of other stuff as well.
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Post by Dazo on Nov 4, 2004 14:50:44 GMT -5
I tend to find his books quite depressing, but a good book is always a good reason to not be on the computer , i'm busy re-reading all my pratchett books.
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Post by CELS on Dec 16, 2004 9:58:46 GMT -5
Since it's about time that we approved your worlds, Dazo, I've had a read through the Seleca III SR as well. Here are a few comments 1) Like for Kolkhoz, I recommend that you write up important locations, a glossary and a timeline. 2) It is very interesting that you describe the Selecan style of dress, but I think you should do it in a seperate paragraph. Right now, it's not really clear if you're talking about civilians or the urban militia (which I thought you were going to rename...) Oh, and as long as you're talking about music, maybe you should say a bit about Selecan instruments? 3) The chig carapace sounds a bit too strong. Maybe say that it is almost as strong as steel? Otherwise, this sounds very sensational... 4) Is there any chance you'd like to replace 7 million of the people on this world with servitors, and make it an agri-world instead of a civilised world? It would just make it more interesting, in my opinion. Just a humble request.. It wouldn't really change too much.
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Post by Dazo on Dec 16, 2004 12:16:02 GMT -5
I was wasn't I, don't suppose you remember what I said I was going to change it to do you, Ah it doesn't matter, I going to go with either the Watch, or Town Watch, which would you prefere. And there will have to be some kind of coast guard. I could certantly try. Is there any chance you were joking And much of the work isn't really sevitor material and its against their religion and no, no no no Eh, hang on you thought that was a good idea when I came up with it. But I have no problem redesignating it an Agriworld if you like, this is a big world after all, and water worlds need more people to manage them than if it was say mostly flat rolling plains covered with grox.
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Post by CELS on Dec 16, 2004 12:43:15 GMT -5
No problem. I just wanted to see more agri-worlds in the Anargo sector, but the thing is that these can't have a population of more than a million, according to the Imperial classification system. Not really a big deal though.
And I think it was Town Watch.
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Post by Dazo on Dec 16, 2004 13:44:05 GMT -5
Bah, that was an arbitrary number given by GW, when was the last time they sat down and tried to develop an agri world as an actual working planet, never thats when, so if you don't mind and kage doesn't mind and zholud doesn't mind then I say lets make it an agri world, what do you think. Incedently I worked out the population spread, its 1 person per 127 square miles now I think thats pretty sparse.
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Post by CELS on Dec 16, 2004 16:16:09 GMT -5
Actually, it is I that am being difficult on this one. I would prefer to make the official fluff work if possible, rather than just change it to make things easier. This applies to population for agriworlds as much as size of starships. Personally, I think the imagery of agri-worlds mostly populated by servitors is awesome. Very Matrix, in a way. But I won't force it on other people. Expect to see it in the Anargo sub
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Post by Dazo on Dec 16, 2004 16:35:42 GMT -5
Ok then i'll leave it, by the way how do you work out aestimare for the other planets in a system, also do I have to use bullet points as I don't know how to get them on here.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 6, 2005 22:59:54 GMT -5
I've taken a look at the system and, for the most part, it is fine. It would be great if you could get someone to read over it in a great deal of detail so that it reads better in places, but then again this is partially an artefact of that the fact that I intensely dislike conversational text.
Produce... You may wish to hold off on this until a subsequent date when Sojourner has greater details on the division of industry on a given world.
All that you need to do is ensure that the PPL (Zholud, in this case) is posted a rectified UWP along with a 'concept paragraph' so that when a thread is posted about world UWP/concepts for the Meksum subsector that he is made aware of it.
(The posting of the SR, as with other SR in other subsectors, in no way automatically assures acceptance. We must see everything in context...)
You might also want to check out the Tir'asur SR and the Tryphon SR and Appendix for ideas on how you might properly represent the potential for integration of the world.
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Post by Dazo on Jan 7, 2005 4:46:27 GMT -5
I'd like that aswell, I honestly can't tell when I drift into conversational prose, its jus the way I write As I said in the proculus thread I hadn't done it for the economy side of things, I actually did it before that whole conversation started, it was only afterwards I thought it might be of some use for what sojourner was doing. Would you like it removed. Oh I knew that, the reason I posted it seperatly was that it would be easier to find and read and easire for me to update so I wouldn't have to keep reposting it I always refere back to them, and the other worlds in the archives, it might not seem like I do, but I do, honest I'll talk to zholud about that stuff you wanted me to send him, its just the modified UWP and a short description of the world, yes.
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