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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 18, 2004 11:14:57 GMT -5
While I think about it, daz0, congratulations on being the first person to provide non-hexagonal continents! With regards to the population, you can do with it what you want. However, remember that any 'regiment' sized army is going to be a not-insignificant part of the population... that's all I was getting at, unusually for me since I tend to ignore the wargame concepts!
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Post by Dazo on Jul 18, 2004 12:34:51 GMT -5
I thank you ;D
On population thats great another few million should do On the milatary i'm going to say everyone was right, i was being a bit extreme with my figures. I may even consider raising a guard regiment on seleca but i don't know we'll see. The PDF is being scaled down, i'm going to go with a quarter of the population on reserve stand by with maybe 10% on active standby this would be rotated maybe every year with that quarter going back to their farms and the next lot brought in
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 19, 2004 1:15:15 GMT -5
That sounds like a huge population dedicated to military activity... Erm, sorry but that's just how it seems to me. I'm sure that if some of the military 'buffs' dropped by they would suggest something similar.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 19, 2004 3:21:29 GMT -5
*sigh* Ok Here's my thinking on it, population 3,000,000 standing PDF 25% of the population 750,000, of that 10% is active so thats 75,000 battle ready troops spread out to protect 16 major population centre's(think of them in terms of small countries), So that gives us about 5000 troops to guard them and the territory under their control. Thats not really alot but just enough to put up a meaningfull resistance add to that they are guarding an entire planet, which is bigger than earth, if anything they are under strenth Does that help at all kage
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Post by zholud on Jul 20, 2004 8:51:11 GMT -5
The PDF is being scaled down, i'm going to go with a quarter of the population on reserve stand by with maybe 10% on active standby this would be rotated maybe every year with that quarter going back to their farms and the next lot brought in Man, I beg you - why worry about army on Agri-world that much... I guess 1% is more than enough (US has 0.1% and China 0.9%), but if you really need it - drop to 3-5%, please... there weren't problems for generations on the planet, why worry.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 20, 2004 10:25:44 GMT -5
Alright, alright damit i'll lower it to 5% active for the planet, its done you've beaten me down, i surrender if i do that can we say Seleca III is done, please for the love of god let it be done Seriously if thats what you want then i'll do it its cool man, ok Is there anything else that you or Kage or CELS would like done to this or are you all now happy with it, please be happy with it
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 20, 2004 12:40:29 GMT -5
I shall take a closer look at the information that you've posted asap. I would ask, however, that you make the effort to format the submission. You know, the whole line spaces between paragraphs to make them easier to read, capitals at the front of sentences, etc. It would also be useful if you followed the "Standard Representation" format not just for the mainworld, but also for the system as a whole.
Comments will follow shortly.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 21, 2004 22:42:12 GMT -5
Not entirely sure what you mean, this is the whole system, star, asteroid field, planet thats it. And as for the rest at CELS prompting i have re read it and tried to correct all grammer, punctuation and change it a bit to make it easier to read. Beyond that i don't know what else i can do.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 22, 2004 0:32:59 GMT -5
Ok i've reduced it to a uwp of 9, which is early fusion power i believe. i've already stated above that they have fusion power so it seems like a reasonable number to choose. They were'nt a bunch of hill billies when they arrived on the world in the first place and the idea of them having a significantly lower tech level Remember that there is a difference between the 'level of technology' that is carried by colonists (i.e. in terms of artefacts such as 'guns') and the ability to produce those technologies (e.g. being able to smelt, mould, manufacture chemicals, etc.). That's all that I'm getting at. Fusion plants could be imported, etc. etc.
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Post by Dazo on Jul 22, 2004 0:39:25 GMT -5
Indeed, i do agree with that, so i've lowered it from TL9 to TL8 as that is advanced as i need them to be. and as you point out more advanced tech can simply be shipped in
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Post by zholud on Jul 22, 2004 5:41:47 GMT -5
Alright, alright damit i'll lower it to 5% active for the planet, its done you've beaten me down, i surrender Ok, so be it... and try to give more less military info on planet - intrigue, grudges, attepts to illeghalise alcohol production, whatever. And I loudly applaud the stuff you've done thus far, even in spite I sometimes disagree on details.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 22, 2004 5:44:18 GMT -5
You still understand that it means you're operating a culture with real-world technology (i.e. slightly higher than the modern world)?
How do they sustain that with a low population?
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Post by Dazo on Jul 23, 2004 0:08:19 GMT -5
By Kage
I'm not sure i understand what you are saying, surely a small population would be easier to sustain.
Thank you, and i will try to beef up the rest of it though suggestions would be helpful Oh and Kage are you planning to do a new map for meksum aswell as i would like to know where Seleca is in relation to everything else
Edit: below is some of the things i have added rather than you having to read through the whole lot i've put it here aswell
"it is so deep that it still remains a mystery what kinds of creatures exist in the crushing black depths. Deep water fishermen often tell tales of great beasts that rise with ghost moon (Selecan term for the full moon) and sink back into the stygian gloom as the orange star rises."
"This good health is in part due to the Selecan obsession for fitness and exercise, indeed being overweight is seen as somewhat of a disgrace. While Selecans enjoy a good drink it tends only to be the youth that drinks to excess. The old bureaucratic council once tried to make it illegal but violent crime and social disorder rose so alarmingly they repealed the law after only 5 months.
"Rhak, a type of giant ground beetle, and giant winged insects known as Chigs, are reared and farmed and add a much needed break from fish. Their iridescent shells are also used as armour plate being both lighter and stronger than steel plate. "
"Tension has arisen between the Selecans and the corporation recently over land. Seleca is a beautiful world and it seems the corporation has been selling off pieces of sea front property to wealthy off worlders. The Selecans do not want their world to become a tourist resort nor a holiday home for decadent lay abouts. These resorts have now been sealed of from the local population further increasing the fury of the populace."
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Post by Kage2020 on Jul 23, 2004 8:09:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure i understand what you are saying, surely a small population would be easier to sustain. That a developed TL8 infrastructure might be hard to maintain with such a low population, not the population itself. Oh and Kage are you planning to do a new map for meksum aswell as i would like to know where Seleca is in relation to everything else There is already a temporary map of Meksum. I have yet to find out whether zholud has approved of this world. Furthermore, I'm not the map maker! Those were just maps so that people could envision what the subsectors were like. You should be able to work out the position of Seleca from the image already posted, however... Remember that the co-ordinates for your map are x,y,z and if you want to translate that to the image x=Y, y=Z, and z=60-X. (Lower case are ASP coordinate axes, upper case are the axes on the image...)
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Post by Dazo on Jul 23, 2004 21:57:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that, high tech machines and gadgets have a tendancy to reduce the need for alot of workers, everything that can be would be automated. I have no problem however in increasing the population if you think that would be the soloution, its just that agri worlds shouldn't be densly populated should they?
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