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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 8:36:04 GMT -5
Now that the Alpha Legion might have a significant presence in the Anargo Sector, building networks of cults, doing sabotage and so on, I was thinking of adding another chapter to Anargo's history.
Let's say the Alpha Legion has been around in Anargo for quite some time... maybe millennia. From what I gather, they work by building and building networks of cults and contacts, biding their time till they are powerful enough to actually attack the Imperium from the inside. Well, maybe they've already made such an attack against the Anargo sector, a millennia or two ago. A truly massive attack, with cults rebelling in all subsectors of Anargo.
Now, if this attack would happen at the same time as the Ork waaagh!, I suppose this would be typical Alpha Legion stuff, but unfortunately it might be too much for the Anargo sector.
Still, the attack might have led to decades of war, entire planets hanging in the balance, the entire Anargo fleet mobilised... it wouldn't have been the biggest war Anargo has known (the orks would take first, second and third place in that competition, I suppose), but it would still be a significant episode in the history of Anargo.
I was also hoping to link the Alpha Legion with the Frostwraiths in these wars, and create a grudge between the two. I imagine the Frostwraiths thwarting the Alpha Legion's plans in the nick of time, winning the war. As we portray the Alpha Legion in the 'present' 40k, they may be building up for an attack aimed specifically at the Frost Wraiths. Maybe tie in some alterior motives to make it realistic.
I was also thinking of how the Alpha Legion would fit with our plans of letting a Traitor Legion liberate the Anargo sector in the Great Crusade. A thought occured to me though; why not two legions, side by side? With the legions spread so thin across the galaxy, maybe a few companies of a later Loyal legion (UM, IF, BA, what have you) sided with the Alpha Legion in the Great Crusade. We could write another chapter in the history of the Primarchs as well!
Well, that's enough brainstorming for now. What do you think? ;D
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 10:36:52 GMT -5
well, let them have freed the anargo sector on their own...Alpharius tried to keep his tactics as diverse and secretive as possible...so no Smurfs!!!
Im very happy to see the Alpha Legion as a significant presence...it kinda fits the fluff to have them around more, eventhough GW kinda seems to be ignoring them, these are the guys who are in the Imperium most of the time...
I wouldnt see them having big wars in the anargo sector, let them have cult uprisings and recuitment of space marines (criminal organisation cover up), maybe something with the alpha legion forces who try to steal some eldar technology, some cool battles between eldar and alpha legion (aracnus also attacking chaos cultists on other worlds...assassinations n stuff)
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 13:13:58 GMT -5
Why do you not see them fighting any big wars in the Anargo sector? Remember, the Alpha Legion is not all about sculking in the shadows and starting cults. Those things are just a means to an end. The whole point of building that big firecracker is to light it, and ride the wave of destruction! As for the fight against Frost wraiths... "The Legion has great pride in its prowess and welcomes opportunities to demonstrate their superior skills against loyalist Space Marine Chapters. They have been known to hold back some of their forces to test themselves more thoroughly in these circumstances."Codex Chaos Space Marines.
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 13:17:50 GMT -5
I dont know why, it could be cool...but then I would wanna see alpha legion fleets and titans and all that
ok a big chaos war...detailed...I mean the characters, units, technology...chaos titan legion?
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Post by zholud on Jan 26, 2004 14:53:34 GMT -5
CELS, you aren’t the true voice of Kage any more!!! ;D OK, what I think about this: - The sector liberator – future traitors. Nice idea, I vote for it, have been discussing it before. The main true liberators, please still ‘mere solders’ of Emperor armies.
- Alpha has significant presence? What does ‘significant’ means to you in terms of amount of CSM in sector? I now think about 10-50, no more with main work in cults, not direct warfare
- Making our hidden Alpha legionnaire high ranking person from the HH, level of 5th chapter commander or similar (if legion is about 10 chapters).
- What do you mean under ‘wars’? I like idea of grudge, but assassination attempt and planetary rebellions better fit the bill IMHO.
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 15:07:53 GMT -5
the significant presence woul probably mean that they are the main CSM legion present in the sector, they are calling the shots for the chaos forces there.
I like the idea of direct warfare..but maybe some battles, not all of them, most of them will be hidden small raid attacks.
Well...maybe incoorporate my alpha legion into the sector (I play alpha legion) Commander Malika Chevack ;D have an alpha legion company in the sector, about a 100 marines, maybe a base of operations...I image that to be either a hidden base on some planet, a space hulk, or a battle barge...
Sector liberators...this was pre heresy..this was during the great crusade, the alhpa legion freed the anargo sector then...now they just want to kill off the imperium there.
A question about the Frost Wraiths...are they a successor chapter of the Ultra Marines? maybe they alpha legion know that and hate them even more
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Post by zholud on Jan 26, 2004 15:38:48 GMT -5
A hundred marines is little too much IMHO. Let’s make calculus we have 2 mln worlds and the verge of heresy with 100-1,000 worlds per sector (say 500 for average) or 4,000 sector liberated by 18-20 legions each 10-30 thousand strong so about 100 marines of both sides per sector... remember, ASP was created as average sectorI would like to see more chaos presence, but you play with fire there. Not one base, but multiple and non essential and even better than others.
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 15:39:51 GMT -5
I dont know why, it could be cool...but then I would wanna see alpha legion fleets and titans and all that ok a big chaos war...detailed...I mean the characters, units, technology...chaos titan legion? Well, that's not what I had in mind. I was thinking small Alpha Legion presence, but big war. Maybe a company of Alpha Legionnaires, but millions of cultists. No Alpha Legion, fleet, no chaos titan legion, but... Traitor Guard, maybe some traitor Navy, dark prophets blessed by the dark gods, maybe even a few daemons... To get Chaos Titan legions and Alpha Legion fleets in the Anargo sector, they would have to come all the way from the Eye of Terror, where the majority of the AL reside. CELS, you aren’t the true voice of Kage any more!!! ;D What!? Why!? What are you talking about!? *whispers* Join me, and we shall rule the Anargo sector project like father and son...! OK, what I think about this: - The sector liberator – future traitors. Nice idea, I vote for it, have been discussing it before. The main true liberators, please still ‘mere solders’ of Emperor armies. Fair enough, and I agree. Maybe it was the heroism of the 'mere soldiers' that made the Emperor visit? Mere mortals fighting with the same success as the Space Marines would be worth checking out, IMO. - Alpha has significant presence? What does ‘significant’ means to you in terms of amount of CSM in sector? I now think about 10-50, no more with main work in cults, not direct warfare I'm thinking up to a company in size, spending centuries if not millennia to prepare for direct warfare. So far this has only happened once. -Making our hidden Alpha legionnaire high ranking person from the HH, level of 5th chapter commander or similar (if legion is about 10 chapters). HH? Horus heresy? Fair enough. -What do you mean under ‘wars’? I like idea of grudge, but assassination attempt and planetary rebellions better fit the bill IMHO. Yes, but the Alpha Legion isn't limited to assassinations, detaching screws from the brakes of your local school bus, etc. They do participate in battles as well. They are far too proud to only fight defenseless humans (i.e. PDF). Did you read my quote above? They enjoy fighting loyalist Space Marines, and even purposefully try to even out the odds to make things even more challenging. They do have some level of martial pride, and they still enjoy a good fight. It's just that they spend much longer preparing for it than other traitor legions. the significant presence woul probably mean that they are the main CSM legion present in the sector, they are calling the shots for the chaos forces there. Well, yes and no. Not all traitor legions get along and respect eachother. I guess any other legion is likely to cooperate with the Alpha Legion, but not necessarily, IMO. I like the idea of direct warfare..but maybe some battles, not all of them, most of them will be hidden small raid attacks. Definitely! ;D Well...maybe incoorporate my alpha legion into the sector (I play alpha legion) Commander Malika Chevack ;D have an alpha legion company in the sector, about a 100 marines, maybe a base of operations...I image that to be either a hidden base on some planet, a space hulk, or a battle barge... Planet? Maybe. Space hulk, asteroid, probably. Battle barge? I don't think so. Of course, if anyone can convince me that chaos battle barges are more common than I am led to believe, then I'd be most happy. Btw Malika, there are no records of any Chaos Battle Barges in the Gothic war. Considering the size of the Chaos armada in this war, that is saying something. Sector liberators...this was pre heresy..this was during the great crusade, the alhpa legion freed the anargo sector then...now they just want to kill off the imperium there. Or seize control of the sector, eventually... A question about the Frost Wraiths...are they a successor chapter of the Ultra Marines? maybe they alpha legion know that and hate them even more That has not be determined yet. Just for the sake of originality, I would say no, but it's up for discussion! Of course, Sikkukkut might have a say in this, when he returns...
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 15:47:56 GMT -5
a base in some asteroid field could be cool.
ok ok not too many marines, no alpha legion fleet, lots and lots of cultist, traitor IG, mutants...Im not too fond of deamons but im not calling the shots here, maybe some mercenaries fighting for the chaos forces?
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Post by zholud on Jan 26, 2004 15:57:01 GMT -5
Fair enough, and I agree. Maybe it was the heroism of the 'mere soldiers' that made the Emperor visit? Mere mortals fighting with the same success as the Space Marines would be worth checking out, IMO. I vote for this as well as stellar phenomena because it is both original and reasonable. And I don’t have anything against open conflict and their pride
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 15:57:41 GMT -5
a base in some asteroid field could be cool. Of course, we'll need a reason for them to have a base. I mean, if they just spend their time moving amongst the Anargo population, raising cults and making precision strikes, then why would they need this base? They could get everything they need from their cults... that's why I would prefer it if their 'base' was actually a ship, like a strike cruiser (if they had those in the horus heresy). A ship is easier to hide, and if things got too hot, they could just find another sector. ok ok not too many marines, no alpha legion fleet, lots and lots of cultist, traitor IG, mutants...Im not too fond of deamons but im not calling the shots here, maybe some mercenaries fighting for the chaos forces? I'm not too happy with how GW uses daemons either, actually. Perhaps we'll find a solution that we're all happy with. Mercenaries? Sure, as long as you come up with a reason. They do have millions of cultists, after all. Paying a lot of money for a couple of thousand extra seems... reduntant.
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 16:02:24 GMT -5
well there are some battles where humans would be useless, and some stronger aliens are needed, maybe some world unsuitable for humans...
or maybe some subsector where there are hardy any humans, but they need to fight for some reason, so they might use mercenaries (DE pop in my mind)
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Post by Minister on Jan 26, 2004 16:18:39 GMT -5
"I'm not too happy with how GW uses daemons either, actually. Perhaps we'll find a solution that we're all happy with."
Happily enough the Alphas don't usually make all that much use of summoned warp entities...
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Post by CELS on Jan 26, 2004 16:21:16 GMT -5
Happily enough the Alphas don't usually make all that much use of summoned warp entities... Yes! Do you have any other comments on the idea, perhaps...?
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Post by malika on Jan 26, 2004 16:24:31 GMT -5
my alpha legion doesnt have any deamons at all, my lord (who hasnt died yet, he is the only one..well him nad my luitenant who lived during the horus heresy)
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