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Post by Sojourner on Jul 27, 2004 0:34:16 GMT -5
Here's one vote for a Nazi-esque Chaos world styled along the lines of the Third Reich...red banners with black eight pointed stars and all...
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Post by ZoomDog on Jul 27, 2004 0:40:43 GMT -5
What defines a Chaos world though? If a rebel force takes over the world, but refuses to give in the Chaos Demagogues, wouldn't it just be a rebel world? To me, the whole point of a Chaos world is that it's denizens (or the majority of) actively worship Chaos, and in doing so they weaken the barrier between universes and voila, Demons. If the new 'planetary leader' attempts to stop the Demagogues from summoning beings of the Warp, then chances are another war will break out. Yes but they were thorougly cleaned.   |
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Post by Sikkukkut on Jul 27, 2004 1:00:52 GMT -5
Just from interest, has anyone else read the Traitor General extract on the BL site yet?
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Post by CELS on Jul 27, 2004 1:47:33 GMT -5
Yeah. And for those who haven't... www.blacklibrary.com/pdf/default.htmAs far as I know, you need psykers to open warp portals and 'weaken the barrier between universes'. You can't just get the population to worship chaos, and that's it, AFAIK. If all you had to do was force the population to worship chaos for it to become a daemon world, then the Sabbat worlds would all be lost, wouldn't they? My guess is that you probably need thousands of psykers in some huge, coordinated ritual for worlds to become daemon worlds. Hence the whole witch hunt in the Anargo Chronicles, of course. |
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Post by malika on Jul 27, 2004 3:32:18 GMT -5
Here's one vote for a Nazi-esque Chaos world styled along the lines of the Third Reich...red banners with black eight pointed stars and all... Now there is a good idea. Kinda model the world after nazi Germany, Im not feeling so well today so Im not gonna type that much...when Im better Im going to work out that idea ;D EDIT: Today feeling a bit better (heavily medicated) The Nazi idea is good, maybe some megalomaniac traitor commander. He might be on the side of Chaos, but refuses to serve the Chaos Gods (The Night Lords seem to have a sort of similar relationship to the Chaos Gods, same goes for Iron Warriors). This commander tries to create a little empire of his own in some system in the Sargassos Sub-Sector. He has control over one planet, and so far isnt capable of relative long range space travel, so his forces are still kind of stuck on the planet. However there still is a small group of Loyalists who have turned to guerilla warfare to fight against the Traitors. Looks for these traitors: black uniforms with red belts and gloves. Each squad having a banner carrier which is a red flag with a black eight pointed star. Tanks are also decorated with these banners. Heavily focussed on propaganda, so perhaps tanks are upgraded with speaker units which play speeches of the commander of battle songs. More to come soon...Im going to bed now |
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Post by Lordof on Jul 28, 2004 15:46:14 GMT -5
Well I would see that regime attempting to use Chaos to prop itself up (Eg if your torturer has hideous mutations hes likely to be more intimidating)
But i would see the Commander being in the belief that he is the supreme command and there is no higher power or atleast thats what everyone on the planet should believe.
So he would gladly use the Power often gifted by Chaos and use to make it appear to be his own power and also using it to attempt to supress any religion apart from his personality cult.
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Post by ZoomDog on Jul 28, 2004 16:12:51 GMT -5
The Chaos Gods, and their worshippers, would be very unhappy with any of their 'minions' preventing their worship. Why would the big 4 let him get away with this? Wouldn't it be much more to their benefit if the entire world worshipped them, made them sacrifices, consorted with their demons? IMO if this commander did try to supress the worship of the Gods, then the true Chaos Worshippers would start their own rebellion and put a 'proper' Chaos Commander in place.
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Post by malika on Jul 28, 2004 23:15:36 GMT -5
He might just use Chaos, similar to what the Night Lords do.
I would see him as the megalomaniac leader, and perhaps he has a division of "priests" who would take care of the whole chaos sacrifice/deamon/whatever thing. The "government" (who is under control of the Traitor Commander) would be devided in certain divisions, maybe ministers, but they are his military lower officers.
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Post by Dazo on Aug 2, 2004 23:30:39 GMT -5
You don't use chaos it uses you and the night lords can not be comparered to a rogue imperial commander, the night lords have had 10,000 years worth of experience in regarde to chaos they know what they are doing
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Post by Lordof on Aug 6, 2004 1:55:15 GMT -5
And they had 10000 years of knowledge when they first turned to chaos?
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Post by Dazo on Aug 6, 2004 1:59:50 GMT -5
So that would mean...20,000...years worth of knoledge, first hand experience and that they were genetically modified superbeings whose minds could probably last alot longer against chaos than your average human. Though it would seem even they got shafted by chaos, so you r average cult leader realistically has no chance what so ever
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Post by malika on Aug 6, 2004 7:58:17 GMT -5
So that would mean...20,000...years worth of knoledge, first hand experience and that they were genetically modified superbeings whose minds could probably last alot longer against chaos than your average human. Though it would seem even they got shafted by chaos, so you r average cult leader realistically has no chance what so ever that would not mean 20000 years of experience, it for chaos it doesnt matter if they possess a genetically modified warrior or a normal human...it wouldnt be harder I think |
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Post by Dazo on Aug 6, 2004 11:59:46 GMT -5
What I'm saying is that marines, the cream of humanity got royaly shafted because they thought they were in control the primarchs were god like but they got duped so what chance does a cult leader have. thats all i meant normal humans don't use chaos, chaos new they were coming thousands of years before they were born so chaos prepares itself to use them for all they are worth when they turn to chaos
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Post by malika on Aug 6, 2004 22:35:07 GMT -5
Well...I still think this commander could have some sort of "Night Lord-esque" philosophy about Chaos...it might be a cool scenario to see all this go out of control, and that the commander realises at the end that he cant control Chaos and his world gets sucked into the Warp Storms or something...but have that take place in the far future or something...I mean we dont know that will happen yet |
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Post by malika on Aug 8, 2004 8:13:41 GMT -5
Ok...so what we need now is some sort of idea what this world would be like and what kind of leader our Traitor Commander will be. I'll start on a concept for his biography soon  |
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