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Post by LordFenric on Mar 9, 2004 11:17:16 GMT -5
That could work, much like in Star Gate,
Actually another idea which springs to mind is that, but to 'power' it you need to sacrifice a psycher, kinda like a basterdised verion of the golden thrown.
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Post by malika on Mar 9, 2004 11:29:19 GMT -5
Maybe that would be the reason why he would have psycher's kidnapped...or maybe normal souls are also usefull for this purpose, only more would be necessary?
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Post by LordFenric on Mar 18, 2004 19:03:40 GMT -5
Yes, a desperate effort to extend his life has lead him to almost recreate the golden thrown, now imagine how valuable that sort of tech could be.
To go back OT more it would be impornat, if this idea has any merit / future, that a company be developed for inclusion into the back ground. After all if its that big and been around for that long it would be part of the general frameowrk so to speak.
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Post by Lordof on Mar 19, 2004 0:44:22 GMT -5
A recreation of the Golden throne is getting a bit far fetched
Just make it sacrifices the unfortunates to a patron daemon who prolongs his life in return for the souls.
It just a bit more chaotic
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 20, 2004 14:22:08 GMT -5
A recreation of the Golden throne is getting a bit far fetched Never quite saw why the Golden Throne was that special once you got around to thinking about. It didn't preserve the life of the Emperor, though it did bind 'something' to it (sounds like a very low-tech Waystone). The sacrifice of 'souls' to the Emperor is a pretty standard piece of Chaos magic... etc. Kage
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Post by zholud on Mar 21, 2004 5:32:47 GMT -5
The sacrifice of 'souls' to the Emperor is a pretty standard piece of Chaos magic... etc. not exactly, because sacrifices in Chas are made for relevant gods/powers, which may grant in return gifts to their once mortal servants. The sacrifices power Emperor instead.
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Post by Lordof on Mar 21, 2004 7:24:27 GMT -5
Well i really don't think making something similar to the Golden throne would be a good idea.
Perhaps have a Daemon Techno device which takes the life essence of an individual sacrificed upon it and creates an elixer which prolongs lives amongst other things.
So in other words it would run along similar lines of the Slanneshi concoctions
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Post by hairyheretic on Mar 21, 2004 8:10:25 GMT -5
In the old realm of chaos books, there were a fair number of different chaos weapons with unusual properties.
Found what I was looking for .. Deamon weapons. One of their properties was that if a model was slain by it their Strength was divided in 3 parts. One part went to the Patron power of the blade, one to the deamon bound within the blade itself, and one to the weilder.
I don't think its too much of a stretch to have a blade that steals life force, rather than strength.
Thoughts?
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Post by CELS on Mar 21, 2004 14:41:32 GMT -5
I agree that a golden throne would be inappropriate. A dark device that creates some kind of elixir... fair enough. Such a device would be powerful indeed though, and could probably keep a small army immortal, and not just one man. The soul-devouring weapon-idea sounds good too, even if it is a tad cliché.. At least make it a staff instead of a blade
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Post by hairyheretic on Mar 21, 2004 14:47:29 GMT -5
Staff, crystal, blade, ritual ... I don't think we're really short on possibilities for what the actual focus could be.
If you want to go with the elixer creating machine, maybe it needs a specific something in order to create the elixer, but the sorcerer who knew exactly what was killed / vanished. Now the others know how to operate the thing, but most of their victems end up creating orange cordial rather than the elixier of life .. hence they only get a 'good' batch every few decacdes or so.
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Post by Lordof on Mar 21, 2004 22:47:06 GMT -5
Well yeah you would have it mainly it creates nothing exceptional prolonging life in a count of hours or minutes rather than months or years.
But with say Psykers or those are full of internal energy would create far more potent mixes.
Heck you could probably have it as powder which gets created that way the weak solutions could be sold off as a Narcotic, funding the project.
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Post by hairyheretic on Mar 22, 2004 15:55:16 GMT -5
Well yeah you would have it mainly it creates nothing exceptional prolonging life in a count of hours or minutes rather than months or years. But with say Psykers or those are full of internal energy would create far more potent mixes. By full of energy, do you mean people who are younger? Heck you could probably have it as powder which gets created that way the weak solutions could be sold off as a Narcotic, funding the project. Or both. Maybe if a direct life force transfer is done, you gain a lot of benefit, but if it is refined and stored, it looses a lot of potency.
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Post by Lordof on Mar 23, 2004 6:54:01 GMT -5
By full of energy i mean those sodded people who seem to have boundless energy (You know the sort that writers love when they are Wartime Leaders)
Those people are naturally full of life and are always on the go never stopping.
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Post by Kage2020 on Mar 24, 2004 19:25:19 GMT -5
not exactly, because sacrifices in Chas are made for relevant gods/powers, which may grant in return gifts to their once mortal servants. The sacrifices power Emperor instead. Sorry... I really don't see the differences that you do. That's one of those points where morality comes into it: if it's to the Chaos powers than it's bad and does this, but if it's to the Emperor then it's good and does that. The only problem is that 'this' and 'that' essentially come down to the same thing... ... And that's where the 'fluff' falls down. The desire to create something different ignores that which is the same! Kage
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Post by Lordof on Mar 25, 2004 0:26:19 GMT -5
Yes Kage sort of correct
But the Sacrifices of Psykers to the Emporer powers the Astrominicum which is a benefit to all Space faring humans
A Chaos Sacrifice can be anybody the Cultists happens to get his hands on and serves only to benefit the relevant power and the cultist.
Its still a morality thing but the Imperial sacrifices are less selfish
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