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Post by yakman on May 25, 2004 1:07:54 GMT -5
Agmar the die-hard Roleplayer, GM and custom 40k rpg writer checking in!
I personally feel that Gurps is too scientific for 40k, it is true that gurps does everyting, but it is very rational and scientific in it's approach.
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Post by Kage2020 on May 25, 2004 5:42:28 GMT -5
Welcome, Agmar Stick... I'm not going to disagree with you, merely point out that it really doesn't make that much of a difference. I'd also question the scientific veracity of those products that aren't meant to be scientific, but there we go... GURPS' main strength, for me at least, is it has the one rules system for the several genre (when you're a pathological genre-hopper this becomes significant both to you and your players! ) and it allows you to 'build' from the ground up. The various conversions that I've seen out there have been inherently weak because they've tried to use the wargame as a means of introducing more detailed RPG statistics, and this has created the horrendously flawed and glitchy approaches that I've seen with the WFRP system, Alternity, etc. For me, it's not the best system out there... it's just the one that I'm using. However, the Anargo Sector Project is not just about my using GURPS. It's about people roleplaying in the Anargo sector... Just because I use that one doesn't mean that others do... I more than welcome people who use other game systems to use the Anargo sector as a home for their campaigns and adventures. Even when we utilise an RPG campaign to advance the 'plot' of the Anargo sector, we're not going to be using GURPS or at least necessarily so... So join in! Kage
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Post by yakman on May 25, 2004 20:25:12 GMT -5
Well, as long as we both agree.
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Post by Kage2020 on May 26, 2004 21:55:47 GMT -5
Erm... not entirely. I'm wary that we take this thread too far off course given the low number of posts here (! ) but I'm going to have to ask: could you give me a system that you feel is not 'scientific' or 'rational' and, therefore, why it is 'more appropriate' to a representation of the 40k universe than any other? Also, we'll have to try and keep our posts above the one line approach. CELS gets all twitchy when people do that but *shuuussh*, don't tell him I told you... Kage
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Post by Minister on May 27, 2004 0:47:57 GMT -5
I realise that many of you laugh with scorn at the D20 types, but I came across a D20 mod for 40K. Not much use for any sort of intricasies and deep exploration of the 40K universe, but for those of you interested primarily in "Phat Lewt", it may be quite entertaining. 132.206.48.45/course/273-434B02/saier.daniel/MainPage.htmHighly tempted to drop a Bloodthirster into my D&D campaign I'm DMing.
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Post by zholud on May 27, 2004 6:25:07 GMT -5
I generally like to participate both in RP development and actual RPing, but I’m miserably out of time I like GURPS on the basis of was I was looking at, namely Basic Set, Undead, Biotech, High-Tech, Traveller, etc. however, I never played with it.
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Post by Kage2020 on May 29, 2004 10:16:10 GMT -5
I realise that many of you laugh with scorn at the D20 types, but I came across a D20 mod for 40K. <grin> I've got no problem with D20... but the fact that the author got the "Eldar Warrior" information completely wrong does tend to put the rest of it in perspective! But as everyone knows, when it comes down to the eldar you better be careful what you do with them! Kage
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Post by Minister on May 30, 2004 9:03:51 GMT -5
I don't care. It allows me the stupidity of dropping Tactical Dreadnaught Armour into a D&D campaign without doing any preperation if I'm feeling like upsetting Hugh. ;D
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Post by Kage2020 on Jun 10, 2004 13:07:07 GMT -5
Well, there is that... and it's exactly for that reason that I decided to go with GURPS in the first place. I love mixing up genre! But that's OffT... Kage
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Post by RascalLeader on Oct 2, 2004 19:10:23 GMT -5
Well I am not a veteran RPGr, the last time I played AD&D was about four years ago, but I would be interested in joining in any games set up. This may make me sound like a complete idiot but I have to learn; How would it work? If we are talking about doing this over a messenging system how are all the rolls made, or whatever? Now that I have embarrassed myself by asking I am going to scuttle off into a corner and read my Gurpslite download.....
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Post by Kage2020 on Oct 3, 2004 6:52:42 GMT -5
The project is meant to cover both the wargame side of things as well as the roleplaying potential of the universe... Thus this rarely used board. Shame, really, since the RPG offers a great deal of useful structure. With regards to GURPS, that is just the system that I use. It is not the official system of the ASP, nor do I advocate that people necessarily take it up for anything RP that they set in the 40k universe. There is a wealth of products out there, each with its own advantages and disadvantages. GURPS just happens at this point to fit all of mine. If you're interested in explaining various things (statistics, interpretations of races in RP terms, etc.) then do so... doesn't matter which system. Since I seem to be, broadly, the only person interested in doing this at this time then your input is more than welcome if you're willing to give a hand. (In which case, having a broad understanding or at least basic familiarity with the concepts of GURPS would be useful.)
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Post by Insidious Threat on Nov 18, 2004 6:14:14 GMT -5
Big role player here, and a massive fan of all things World of Darkness (ty White Wolf, i love you)... Very narrative inclined, disdainful of uber characters and plots that are plainly ludicrous for that universe (IE, no Greater Daemons leading Van Saar gangs... etc) and i love the imagery of the Inquisition, tho i consider myself a bit of a heretic and feel that seeing things from the side of the Xenos is a good way to go . But yeah, i run my local RPG group and am more than willing to help out, although i have little to no love for anythnig D20 based, as I am of the firm beleif that the WoD ST system is the best way to focus on the narrative without losing the game mechanics, instead of all of this statistical stuff... Still, I shall presevere, and hopefully put in some cerebral input of narrative nature if I am allowed to do so ... I hope that this works!
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Post by Kage2020 on Nov 28, 2004 22:26:29 GMT -5
as I am of the firm beleif that the WoD ST system is the best way to focus on the narrative without losing the game mechanics, instead of all of this statistical stuff... <grin> I take this approach with GURPS. I like the statistics behind me so that I can - arrogantly and with disdain! - ignore them and concentrate on the narrative. But I still like them being there... Anyway, glad to have you here... I'm personally reinspired in the project by concentrating on my own personal interpretation of the 40k universe in terms of a "sourcebook" that makes the universe accessible to people, including non-wargamers! Help is always welcome, regardless of whther you feel the need to couch it in the terms of another game system!
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Post by schoon on Dec 3, 2004 17:26:57 GMT -5
Though I've followed 40K since the beginning, I've always been more interested in roleplaying in it rather than wargaming in it.
I was an avid fan of the old Critical Hit page, and followed the d20 page mentioned above until the owner closed it down (he's looking for a new server). With Black Industries working on WHFRP2, and also having the license for roleplaying in 40K, I have faith that my patience will be rewarded.
I can't honestly say that I know the GURPS system that well, and personally I think that the 40K RPG will follow the WHFRP2 model. Though there's absolutely no reason to emphasize any one system, that's the direction I see it headed in the future.
Anyhow, regardless of how it's done, I would like to support the effort. I have not insubstantial skills to contribute, though not as much time as I'd like...
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Post by Kage2020 on Dec 3, 2004 18:00:43 GMT -5
I've always been more interested in roleplaying in it rather than wargaming in it. Then you should fit in with this board. Well, me anyway. There aren't a great deal of posters to this forum and those that tend to reply may nt always look at it from an RPG perspective but it can be interesting. I was an avid fan of the old Critical Hit page.. I used to post to the forums under "MAT" until Andrew changed it to Kage2020... just before the site went down. and also having the license for roleplaying in 40K, I have faith that my patience will be rewarded. I'm interested to see what they produce, though to be fair I'm not overtly optimistic since they're using the WFRP system. (As you can guess, I'm not a fan of the system... But there is, of course, a huge difference between using a system and playing in a system.) and personally I think that the 40K RPG will follow the WHFRP2 model. Since they have the license, that's a given. I don't think that it will be an inherently strongly product because of it, but there we go. I personally use GURPS because it does what I need it to do, that's all. Though there's absolutely no reason to emphasize any one system... That's the point. If you have an interpretation of something in an RPG, this is the place for it. that's the direction I see it headed in the future. More than likely, but thankfully we don't have to stick with it! I have not insubstantial skills to contribute, though not as much time as I'd like... How would you like to contribute?
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