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The Tau
Apr 28, 2004 18:49:24 GMT -5
Post by CELS on Apr 28, 2004 18:49:24 GMT -5
Now that we're coming close to establishing the location of the Anargo sector on the second galactic arm in Segmentum Ultima, I was wondering if you consider it at all likely that the Tau have managed to cross the void between this galactic arm and theirs, and made it all the way to Anargo in 999.M41?
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The Tau
Apr 29, 2004 15:56:38 GMT -5
Post by Minister on Apr 29, 2004 15:56:38 GMT -5
No.
Let me rephrase that:
[glow=red,2,300]NOOOO!!!![/glow]
Now, having stated my opinion, I will state my reasons:
1. I don't like them.
2. The Tau "Empire", whilst expanding, is not expanding at such a rate as to allow it to break out of what is effectivley an Imperial blockade in great numbers without going for a major war, which would then make them a priority for the Munitorium again...
3. Tau warp jump technology is not as fast as the Imperiums' (lack of Navigators), and as a result even a fairly short trip, such as to Anargo, would not be easy. There are plenty of closer sectors to annoy.
4. I don't like them.
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The Tau
May 1, 2004 16:49:47 GMT -5
Post by Sephiroth on May 1, 2004 16:49:47 GMT -5
I think they might, just only in not very great numbers. A few Travelling Water Caste members, Merchants and such.
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The Tau
May 1, 2004 16:57:43 GMT -5
Post by CELS on May 1, 2004 16:57:43 GMT -5
And the occassional fire warriors, just for show, perhaps? ;D Welcome to the project, Serpiroth. Be sure to make your presence known in the New Member Check-in point, in the General forum
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The Tau
May 1, 2004 23:02:08 GMT -5
Post by Sephiroth on May 1, 2004 23:02:08 GMT -5
And the occassional fire warriors, just for show, perhaps? ;D Welcome to the project, Serpiroth. Be sure to make your presence known in the New Member Check-in point, in the General forum Thanks for redirecting me CELS, will do. ;D And yes, I imagine a few Fire Warriors would perhaps accompany them, only a full team at most though. Show of strength when dealing with warlike species, that sort of thing.
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The Tau
May 1, 2004 23:30:58 GMT -5
Post by Seamus on May 1, 2004 23:30:58 GMT -5
I have asked about this over MSN with an individual, but it cannot be done. The Tau themselves wont be able to be in Anargo, but perhaps their technology?? That I can understand.. a few Rogue Traders trade for some Tau tech, and over a few years/whatever, the technology reaches here in Glamorous Anargo! ;D
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Post by CELS on May 2, 2004 4:24:37 GMT -5
I'm undecided. The Tau empire spreads over 300 light years in M400, so I'm thinking maaaaybe the could reach Anargo. OR.... they could meet up with a rogue trader (or a Rogue Trader) who could bring them to this region in his ship, for whatever reason.
We just need that reason ;D
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Post by Minister on May 2, 2004 8:35:06 GMT -5
It MIGHT be possible for a diplomatic/trading mission to reach Anargo, but not any sort of major presence.
Besides, why would they want to? There are plenty of other sectors much closer to them.
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Post by CELS on May 2, 2004 9:17:01 GMT -5
That's the reason I was talking about... I have no idea. All I wanted to say is; if any new (or old) members want to find a way for the Tau to enter the Anargo sector in the future, that's fine. But, as with everything else in this project, it must be explained. If you have a logical explanation, great.
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The Tau
May 2, 2004 15:57:09 GMT -5
Post by Seamus on May 2, 2004 15:57:09 GMT -5
Jolly... someone deleted my responce. I will post again.
I collect and play the Tau, so I can give it a shot and try to figure out some reasons why a Tau presence might be in Anargo, whether it be large or small.
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The Tau
May 2, 2004 18:20:56 GMT -5
Post by CELS on May 2, 2004 18:20:56 GMT -5
Cool.
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The Tau
May 4, 2004 16:33:57 GMT -5
Post by Kage2020 on May 4, 2004 16:33:57 GMT -5
To give people a hint of where the current suggestion for the Anargo Sector is, the major problem with a Tau presence in 999.M41 is that the sector lies not insignificantly 'behind' the segmentum fortress world... Remember, however, that the Anargo Sector is at first a setting but, after that, it is a setting for a story. The narrative could quite readily bring them into the loop. And, despite the image of an Imperial 'front line' against the Tau I cannot help but imagine that this could be bypassed (not necessarily broken) in the long term. I'm also reminded of the concept of liquid diffusion, for some reason... Kage
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The Tau
May 11, 2004 21:17:51 GMT -5
Post by Seamus on May 11, 2004 21:17:51 GMT -5
sorry for the pathetically-long delay.. but I will have you know I forgot about this thread - prisoners (former conflict?)
- forced labour (slaves?)
- merchants (bigger profit?)
- lost in the warp (short jump, wrong location?)
- Negotiations with Imperial / Other worlds (Alliances?)
- huge advances in the Warp theory Technology
- They have control of the systems nearby (Fluff is never completed or updated frequently enough...)
- trying to aquire more planets / systems for their empire
- another Special Character (O'Shova-related? Another Enclave?)
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The Tau
May 15, 2004 9:47:46 GMT -5
Post by CELS on May 15, 2004 9:47:46 GMT -5
Shamus, I really wish you would elaborate on each of these ideas, since we're ultimately left with guessing what you had in mind, exactly. In the future, instead of writing just "prisoners" or "another special character", please try to come up with concepts that are as developed as possible. I.e. Ordo Xenos Inquisitors have brought Tau Ethereal prisoners from their empire to the Anargo sector, where researchers from other Segmentae have gathered to experiment on them. Also, keep in mind that a few very strong arguments have been presented above to explain why it is VERY unlikely that the Tau are present. To introduce a Tau presence in the Anargo Sector, Shamus, we must counter these arguments But... here are my thoughts. Prisoners - Transporting them all the way to Anargo doesn't really make sense. There are plenty of good research facilities closer to the Tau empire. If you really want to put the Ethereals or whatever in the mother of all research facilities, they would be taken to Mars, I think. Merchants - Assuming you mean the Tau Water caste, I don't think they'd get a bigger profit from selling their wares in the Anargo sector, because it's too costly to hire Rogue Traders to bring them all the way here, and the Anargo sector is to central to sell huge quantities of xenos artifacts, I think. The Inquisition would find out in a second, and put a stop to it. The Water caste wanting to trade with humans seem to focus on backwater worlds, where it is less likely that the judging eyes of the Imperium will set a stop to the transaction. Xenos artifacts are, after all, forbidden. Forced labour - Tau slaves? You can get an unlimited supply of human slaves for no money at all, anywhere in the Imperium. Just look at the Imperial Navy, and their use of ratings. Tau are smaller and weaker than humans and have an alien diet. In other words, fantastically unlikely. Lost in the warp - The Tau don't really enter the warp. They just skid off it like a flat stone bouncing on water. If the Tau were to be pulled into the warp by warp currents or whatever, they would supposedly die. This might not make sense, but by saying that Tau should be able to enter the warp, we're creating more problems than we are solving. Huge advances in warp technology - This is like creating an Imperial Guard army with super-heavy grav tanks and dual mega-gatling plasma cannons, and blaming it on a huge advance in technology. It doesn't make sense. The fluff sets the limit of Tau technology, and it's not up to us to drastically change that. Trying to capture more planets for their empire - Well.... yeah. Obviously. But how? They don't have the technology or the resources to capture planets in the Anargo sector. I'm looking forward to what should hopefully be a longer reply than usual.
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The Tau
May 18, 2004 12:13:39 GMT -5
Post by DesertGhostExarch on May 18, 2004 12:13:39 GMT -5
In short, it's more likely that Tau would be introduced as a "plot device" than as a permanent (or vaguely present) fixture...? Unless the colonial expansion of the Tau Empire was incredibly planned (which is actually likely, I suppose), however, it could be possible that a Tau colony/scout group could have taken off for points unknown and ended up as a small, even insignificant, nuisance for a few years in the closing of M41 worthy of little more than maybe a blurb for historical purposes. Or the occassional rogue Imperial governor (if Anargo has any--I'm new, hey?) could try to petition for the Tau Empire's help, just to stick it to the Imperium because he's heard such nice things about the Tau ( ), but by the time a diplomatic response would be forwarded (most likely a polite "no," due to the vast distance required to be travelled and intervening Imperial worlds), the Imperium probably would have brought the world to task already. But those are either historical "blips" or "plot devices," not anything really constituting a real presence. The most likely Tau-related stuff to show up on a regular basis would be the occassional tech sold by Rogue Traders, used by Inquisitors, or being shipped (under lock and key) through by the Adeptus Mechanicus for study.
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