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Post by malika on Jan 15, 2004 11:14:51 GMT -5
orks dont talk normal, I thought they would call a Hive a HIFFF
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Post by Minister on Jan 15, 2004 11:24:15 GMT -5
Or, as has been policy in my posts for the last five minutes, always follow with the english translation in brackets like dis (this).
Edit: I apoligise,fopr the text size, i was suposed to replace the 2 with a 1, not add to make 21.
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Post by CELS on Jan 15, 2004 20:05:48 GMT -5
Guidelines for Ork imagery. Disclaimer: Much stolen from Minister's post, without permission.
BACKGROUND, RPG's AND FICTION
1. Orks are not pathetically stupid. They have a straightforward way of looking at things, dislike over-complicating the issue and prefer brute force, but that's not the same thing as stupidity.
2. Orks do have the ability to manufacture things. This includes armoured vehicles, gargants, personal armour, and even warp drives. Of course, not all ork societies are the same, i.e. Feral orks will often use primitive weapons and ride around on boars or whatever local race capable of carrying them, and bad moons will be more likely to have mega armour than other clans, for example.
3. A little comedy is appropriate, but the Orks are not the comedic fools of 40K.
4. Whilst the Orks like a good bit of violence in their lives, they do often settle down on a world, where they will limit themselves to low-level violence untill provoked by something or untill a good opportunity presents itself.
5. Orks do not actually speak bad english (or bad low gothic, if you will), they have their own language(s). Hence, most humans will not understand what they say, and orks will not be able to speak with humans, unless someone has learned the other race's language. Still, when orks speak amongst themselves, it is best to use GW's ork tongue ("We iz gonna stomp da 'ooniverse flat an' kill anyfing dat fights back." ) if the reader is supposed to understand what they're saying.
ARTWORK
1. Orks are 2-3 meter tall behemoths, weighing 300-400 pounds, and considerably more when armoured. The biggest of them will tower over even Space Marines.
2. Orks should be scary, terrifying creatures. In other words, closer to the armoured cave trolls in Return of the King than to the Gorgs in Fraggle Rock.
3. Ork guns are bigger than Imperial guns, but they still shouldn't walk around with bloody anti-aircraft cannons. Let's keep things semi-realistic.
Aaaall in favour?
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Post by Minister on Jan 16, 2004 4:38:06 GMT -5
Aye.
Jings, that would make it a short post... I agree with your interpritation of the Orkish nature as far as this discussion goes
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Post by Verm1s on Jan 28, 2004 9:55:58 GMT -5
1. Orks are 2-3 meter tall behemoths, weighing 300-400 pounds, and considerably more when armoured. The biggest of them will tower over even Space Marines. The 2-page 'xenos races' section in the 40K rule book (and the similar diagram in the ork codex) is good reference for this, I think.
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Post by CELS on Jan 28, 2004 10:48:00 GMT -5
Yes, that is where I got the estimates from, among other places.
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Post by Verm1s on Jan 28, 2004 20:48:55 GMT -5
Well, never let it be said I don't state the obvious. I'll just get back to me pencils now...
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 29, 2004 10:02:45 GMT -5
Given some of the concepts behind the 'ork empire', I'm wondering whether we can persuade an open-minded ork fan to come into the project and begin to work up some information on them? If Sikkukkutt ever gets around to posting some information (I'm sure that he's creating it, though!) then I would imagine that he and "da Ork boss" - ha ha - will end up working quite closely on many concepts. Kage
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Post by malika on Jan 30, 2004 9:22:08 GMT -5
Imitating is something that is pretty unique to the Blood Axe clan, IIRC, and something that is often frowned upon by the other clans. Personally, I'd like to see a Deathskull Warlord, because there are already major Bad Moon and Goff warlords, and because the Deathskulls are the coolest! did the orks build mega garants because the imperium had such large titans too? Maybe they invaded some hive world, took it over, and the planet is still covered with haive city, only now its full of orks who took it over ;D And uhm...in the beginning of the thread there was something about cunning orks...I like that, Im working on some sketches of fighter bombers..well more very fast fighters...maybe some gang of orks on the ork world fight each other with aircraft (kinda like that video from Garbage called Special, with the airplanes)
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Post by zholud on Jan 30, 2004 12:20:13 GMT -5
did the orks build mega garants because the imperium had such large titans too? Taking to the notion that Ork Gargants are the ‘movable cathedral/idol’ of Gork/Mork, and the fact that Orks live since war in heaven, I would dare to suggest that ‘oomies copied the design instead. Also you’ll hardly call Eldar titans plagiarism also… ;D
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 30, 2004 20:04:47 GMT -5
Cunning in reference to culture, not just the wargame... And, no... Eldar will never borrow their technology from the orks. There is a place that even the "'Fluff' Heretic" will not go. Not because of inability but because... well, if you need it explained that probably says a lot! (Just in case, I'm kidding with the tone of this email!) Kage
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Post by malika on Jan 31, 2004 8:12:46 GMT -5
Taking to the notion that Ork Gargants are the ‘movable cathedral/idol’ of Gork/Mork, and the fact that Orks live since war in heaven, I would dare to suggest that ‘oomies copied the design instead. Also you’ll hardly call Eldar titans plagiarism also… ;D the might have been around during the war in heaven, but then they still had the brainboys and all that, maybe they didnt even had titans then... Titans could have been created later, after encountering humans....it said so in some older white dwarf from a efw years ago (still second edition...near the end of 2nd edition 40k) that only orks andthe imperium had imperator class titans, because for the imperium they were the ultimate worship of the machine god, and the orks build them to smash up the big oomie titans
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Post by Minister on Jan 31, 2004 8:13:30 GMT -5
On the Mega Gargants, I belive that the core Titan/Gargant "evolved" independantly. The orks then decided that they needed to built bigger in order to avoid being upstaged by the Imperiators of the Poncy Oomanz.
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Post by malika on Jan 31, 2004 8:16:08 GMT -5
Cunning in reference to culture, not just the wargame... And, no... Eldar will never borrow their technology from the orks. There is a place that even the "'Fluff' Heretic" will not go. Not because of inability but because... well, if you need it explained that probably says a lot! (Just in case, I'm kidding with the tone of this email!) Kagenot also in ork character? I mean cunning ork...he will be the pilot of some fighter...maybea leader of a fightah squadron ;D
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Post by zholud on Jan 31, 2004 9:57:52 GMT -5
On the Mega Gargants, I belive that the core Titan/Gargant "evolved" independantly. I agree with independent or interdependent developments of Titans by different races because it makes sense. The fact that Orks loot imperial vehicles and not Eldar is IMHO another proof that genetically implanted knowledge is much closer to STC and not Eldar creation as an art. And I just don’t think that Orks in 60 mln years were unable to came to idea of big warmachine. Especially taking their Freudian consideration that bigger means better ;D
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