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Post by Minister on Feb 17, 2004 10:31:30 GMT -5
Starport: A World Size: Small 16,400 Km Atmosphere: Standard Hydrosphere: Wet world 60% Population: High tens billions Government: Charismatic Dictator Law Level: High Tech Level: F (!) Trade Classification: High Population Population Multiplier: 9 = 90,000,000,000 (!!!) Asteroid Belts:1 Gas Giants: 0 Allegiance: Imperial Life Value: Proto-cellular Resource Value: Poor Dominant Trade Artefact: Computers
Modifications: I’m dropping the population by a factor of thirty to a high, but not unreasonable, 3,000,000,000. Tech level goes down to a D or C (high, yes, but this is the home of the greatest Naval House in the sector). I’d quite like government C too. Export 26? Starport B?
An Imperial Navy dominated world, ancestral home of the Grovsner family, who dominate the local political scene. This world is a major source of skilled crew for the fleets and site of one of several secondary shipyards, constructing mostly smaller vessels along with a few escorts and civilian ships (although requiring the import of warp-drives from specialised facilities elsewhere). Toshanden is also a major point of refit for ships’ systems, with the Mechanicus enclave specialising in the construction of shipboard logic drives.
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Post by CELS on Feb 17, 2004 15:38:01 GMT -5
"Toshanden"... Sounds almost Asian. Would it perhaps be cool to draw some inspiration from Asia, and I suppose mostly Japan? They do have quite a naval history... A small world with a 90 billion citizens? Fall out a window from the highest hive spire and you'll die of hunger before you hit the ground
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Post by malika on Feb 17, 2004 16:25:49 GMT -5
Infamous Kamikaze fighter pilots perhaps...putting the fighter full of explosives and fuel and crashing into an enemy ship.
Strict honour system, you fail the Emperor and you are forced to kill yourself with your own sword.
Maybe a samurai like elite storm trooper unit (karskin on Cadia, and these guys for Toshanden)...so basicly they would carry like hell pistols and master crafted close combat weapons (or maybe even power swords)
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Post by zholud on Feb 17, 2004 16:51:20 GMT -5
Infamous Kamikaze fighter pilots perhaps...putting the fighter full of explosives and fuel and crashing into an enemy ship. I’m just curious how Adeptus Mechanicus look upon such a waste of sacred ships and defilement of sacred spirit.
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Post by malika on Feb 17, 2004 16:53:46 GMT -5
the idea sounded cool
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Post by CELS on Feb 17, 2004 18:41:52 GMT -5
Right... well, I don't want to see this taken too far, obviously. I don't want everyone on Toshanden to be named Kazamaki, Yakimaza and Wakazavi. Drawing on imagery from world history is cool, but I hate it when it's taken too far.
Maybe Final Fantasy would be a good inspiration, in a way. They seem to draw on Asian imagery without going too far...
Well, I just thought I'd pitch the idea anyway.
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Post by Minister on Feb 18, 2004 4:24:22 GMT -5
I did say I was dropping the numbers...
By the way, I'm siping this from the aliens. They can get a world with a tainted atmosphere. I'm sick fed up of recycled air and sealed transports.
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Post by CELS on Feb 18, 2004 7:34:47 GMT -5
I did say I was dropping the numbers... Ah, my bad By the way, I'm siping this from the aliens. They can get a world with a tainted atmosphere. I'm sick fed up of recycled air and sealed transports. Fair enough. What aliens though?
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Post by malika on Feb 18, 2004 8:47:48 GMT -5
enslaved aliens perhaps? Maybe a cool idea for the Asian theme could be...how do I explain this...erm...I dont know you ave noticed but in Japan they try to imitate old Europe (Malice Mizer with their kinda baroque clothing for example) but they overdo it in a way...maybe something like that too Ok but then imagine them less colourfull I agree with not overdoing it, but maybe the strict warrior codes (which were typical for japan) could be in it (just as a cultural aspect). Maybe making them one of the most honourful warriors of the sector (doesnt mean they are the best warriors)
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Post by Sikkukkut on Feb 19, 2004 7:21:34 GMT -5
I’m just curious how Adeptus Mechanicus look upon such a waste of sacred ships and defilement of sacred spirit. How about saying that for some reason this region has never been able to produce very high-quality guidance systems (mechanical logic-engines or servitor-guides). So they've fallen back on the good old labour-intensive martyr-motivated Imperial design: the ships' torpedoes and barrage bombs have a compartment with some rudimentary controls in the nose. Just before launch a human pilot climbs inside, is given the last rites and a purity seal, then the fuselage is welded shut behind him and the torpedo is loaded into the tube...
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Post by CELS on Feb 19, 2004 7:30:43 GMT -5
Malika, though I disliked that picture at first, I'm now starting to think that it would be cool for a world to have such overdone baroque clothing. I'm not sure Toshanden is right for it though, as it might conflict with the image I had in mind. Then again, it's not my world And Sikkukkut, I don't think it's necessary to state that this region was never able to produce proper guiding-systems. Besides, it's unlikely considering the expertise of the nearby forgeworld(s). Perhaps ships from Toshanden use such kamikaze-torpedoes anyway though, because they're that much more effective than the standard guided torpedoes. Remember, normal torpedoes have only minimal guiding systems, which is made evident in BFG (and is the reason they made special rules for guided torpedo upgrades)
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Post by Minister on Feb 19, 2004 8:20:53 GMT -5
Originaly the planet was listed as follows:
Vostenia 50,25,35 - G-V - A76AA96-E S,N Hi Wa 720 Im B5(28) Xenobreed A/3/XSS2117: Homeworld designated Vostenia. Designated hostile and an impediment to mankind’s manifest destiny 3347824.M36. Planet’s surface destroyed by viral bombardment 4029831.M36 after failed ground pacification.
However, I want to breathe free air on a high-tech high population world, so the stats are being swiped.
As for Toshanden's warior ethos, it will be havy and prevelant. The only way to power is to become a prominant member of the Naval houses, and the only way to do that is to serve the Emperor. They also have the traditions and honour of their house to uphold.
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Post by CELS on Feb 19, 2004 8:27:53 GMT -5
Will you not be using the baroque idea then? I might have to steal it for one of my own creations... ;D
And are you interested in looking to Japanese naval history for inspiration, or did you have something else in mind?
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Post by Minister on Feb 19, 2004 8:59:07 GMT -5
Naval traditions are working of the standard model, which means using the Brittish Navy around the 18th/19th century as the main part and then latching on to anything else which looks cool.
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Post by malika on Feb 19, 2004 13:15:11 GMT -5
Malika, though I disliked that picture at first, I'm now starting to think that it would be cool for a world to have such overdone baroque clothing. I'm not sure Toshanden is right for it though, as it might conflict with the image I had in mind. Then again, it's not my world these space ports...are the in orbit or like a planet? how rare are they? I have been thinking of creating a fuedal world, but maybe I could have like a big star port in orbit which will have this kinda overly baroque character (the rich elite living there and all)
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