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Post by Minister on Jan 12, 2004 7:13:38 GMT -5
I will refer you back to the bit on the local religion: "Religion: The local religion is a mainstream derivative of the standard Imperial Cult, and follows the standard Imperialist strictures closely. Psykers are regarded as dangerous abnormalities who are useful to the Imperium when properly controlled. Mutants are abhored as tainted by the evils of the beyond. Members of sanctioned abhuman races are not regarded as mutants, but are looked down upon by much of the populace."
The Imperial establishment itself frowns on the more extremist religious sects, like the Redemptionists, and prefers that the citizens defer to its judgment in all matters spiritual rather than making up their own minds. However, loyal Imperial citizenz can allways be counted upon to form a lynch mob if the priesthood calls for it.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 14, 2004 21:32:17 GMT -5
Oops... My apologies. Seems that working a 100+ hour working week takes it out on you. A feeble excuse, but I'm going to stick to it for the moment. Kage
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Post by Minister on Jan 16, 2004 9:35:00 GMT -5
Right, anything else wanting detail (don't say the solar system, I'm not even looking at that untill after the exams).
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Post by CELS on Jan 16, 2004 15:57:23 GMT -5
Well... with such a low technology level, will the citizens afford "rebreathers" that filter the air, or will they go around carrying oxygen tanks? Oh, and is it uncommon to venture outside? I kind of got that impression.
Last, what about working hours? I'm guessing these guys work 10 hours a day or something, and are payed less than the payment check itself is worth?
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Post by Minister on Jan 17, 2004 8:12:03 GMT -5
Your average citizen does not venture outside. Firstly because filtration units are bulky and expensive and secondly because there's naff all there.
The standard Dorvastor filtration unit is backpack sized combined with a face-mask, and provides several months of unimpared use at a cost which is prohibitive but not completley outside the reach of the average citizen. Smaller units exist, comprising only a bulky facemask, but the filters on these must be replaced after every few days use. In both of these cases they are filters, and do not give full BC warfare protection, only allowing for breathing of the atmosphere. Overground transports (the famous trains) are, of course, sealed. As are the cities.
Oh yes, and the Guardian Bretheren and Railguard troops, along with the Ecclesiarchy when they have cause to go outside, use imported full-system rebreathers.
As for the working joes on the street, they're reasonably well fed, alowed time for their families... It's not luxurious, but it's liveable and a dam site better than most of the hiveworlds. Due to the lack of a powerful nobility with power over everything, birth does not act as as much of a problem for those wishing high office either.
This is going to sound like I'm being stupid or trying to retread old ground, but do you think that the Ecclesiarchy's priests (not the lay servants of the church, but the actual preachere, deacons etc.) would be bound by a vow of celbacy? It does make a diference for the structure of the civilisation (Ecclesiarchy clans and so-on).
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 17, 2004 16:04:02 GMT -5
Given the nature of the taint I'm presuming that the rebreather is actually inappropriately bulky, so as to further restrict the movement of people...? Kage
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Post by CELS on Jan 17, 2004 19:28:40 GMT -5
Cool. Hmm, standard Imperial Cult? I have never heard of any Ecclessiarchy priests having wives in fluff or fiction, I think. But then, I've never heard of vows of celibacy either. The priests just tend to be alone, so perhaps these vows are self-imposed, or perhaps GW takes celibacy for granted. Looking at how the Ecclissiarchy priesthood is dressed, and what their values are, it doesn't seem like there's room for a wife in their life. They always wear these worn, brown robes, which could be taken as a symbol of distance from luxuries such as sexuality Short and simple; I would say that they live in celibacy, but it wouldn't be contradicting fluff if they didn't, to my knowledge.
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Post by Minister on Jan 18, 2004 4:46:30 GMT -5
"I would say that they live in celibacy, but it wouldn't be contradicting fluff if they didn't, to my knowledge." My thoughts too, but I thought it would be apropriate to check. Obviously, the same would not abbly to the unordaned support personel.
"Given the nature of the taint I'm presuming that the rebreather is actually inappropriately bulky, so as to further restrict the movement of people...?" The localy manufactured ones, yes.
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Post by Kage2020 on Jan 21, 2004 19:04:08 GMT -5
One thing that I'm unsure about... what is the nature of 'pilgrimages' to this world? Where do they go? How are they supported? This is obviously going to have concomittant affects upon the rest of the sector and especially extra-sector links... Kage
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Post by Minister on Jan 22, 2004 4:59:52 GMT -5
Hrmmm...
Some will travel here to petition for membership in one of the Blade Cults, but I've not formalised any detail so I'll not dwell on them yet. Some will wish merely to tread the same ground as [The Immprtal Emperor / Constantin Valdor / Saint ?]. There will be some wishing to receive the paperwork for further pilgrimages from the Cardinal. Then we have the reliquaries, cathedrals, chapels, the Garden of Saints and so-on.
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Post by CELS on Jan 22, 2004 18:16:26 GMT -5
The Ecclessiarchy might sponsor the pilgrimages, but I also suspect that it might be like those people who have to visit Mekka once in their life. Muslims is it? Anyway, they're not really sponsored by the government or anything, but their five commandments (or whatever) say that they have to visit Mekka, so it's up to each person to save enough money to afford the journey.
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Post by Minister on Jan 22, 2004 18:18:57 GMT -5
I don't see it so much as an enforced obligation as a goal. There are a great many tales of pilgrims who wish to either test themselves, gain some of the purity of the place, prove that they are willing to be brought to the Emperor in death etc.
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Post by CELS on Jan 22, 2004 18:25:35 GMT -5
I agree, and I would have pointed that out, but I forgot ;D
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Post by Minister on Feb 7, 2004 9:27:06 GMT -5
Any thoughts on what else to say about my planet?
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Post by Kage2020 on Feb 7, 2004 10:32:35 GMT -5
Probably lots... but again we run into the approach of at least one level of 'standardised representation' of worlds and their social information. Grrr... Need more time in the world. Does anyone have a device that slows down time, other than a hot frying pan which you've accidently touched? Kage
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